In this conversation, Randi Wolfe and Harry Leech unpack the promise of apprenticeship, systemic reforms needed to unlock its full potential, the hurdles to aligning apprenticeships with college coursework and degrees, and why building the capacity of intermediaries is essential to expand U.S. apprenticeships to the scale, reach, and impact seen in the U.K. and other nations.

What happens when one of the nation's top apprenticeship leaders sits down with one of ECE's boldest innovators? A lot! In this episode, John Ladd, who led the U.S. Department of Labor Office of Apprenticeship for 17 years, joins ECEPTS Executive Director Randi Wolfe to discuss the national apprenticeship system, recent Executive Orders, and what it takes to build successful apprenticeship pathways for early educators and care providers.

Neighborhood Villages (NV) in Massachusetts is widely recognized as an early adopter and highly successful ECE apprenticeship leader. In this interview, Chief Program Officer, Binal Patel, traces NV's journey from developing their first registered apprenticeship to leading a statewide network of organizations that may differ in structure and focus, but share a commitment to working collaboratively on behalf of building and strengthening the ECE workforce.