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English Out There - Exploding the Myth of ELT

English Out There - Exploding the Myth of ELT

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English Out There explodes the myth of English language teaching (ELT) that the global education industry would rather you didn't know about. English Out There is a hugely effective way to learn to speak English. Listen to me, Jason West, and top EOT teacher Caroline Swinton based in Italy (see her on Facebook) talk about how EOT works and why it is so effective.

Listen to EOT teachers working with learners like you from around the world...can you recognise and hear that it is a completely different kind of process compared to the usual type of English lessons that most of the world is sold and has been for decades? Listen to me talking with other educators about English language learning in the 21st century. EOT involves using some unique learning content before having focused and effective learning conversations .

EOT gets you using new language with fluent and native speakers...and it works and is a lot of fun!

WARNING: Occasional contextually appropriate profanity :-)

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  • Episode 11: Exploding The Myth of ELT Episode 11 - Delusional, Scared and Self Important People in ELT and Education in General
    Sep 30 2024

    That's rather a challening title isn't it? Well, Judy, Caroline and myself all really don't like to call ourselves "teachers" because, as you will hear if you listen, we feel the word doesn't describe what we do and is sort of obsolete in today's world. Are you wedded to the notion that "teaching" is (still) the right word to slap onto the role of someone who supposedly helps others to acquire usable skills and knowledge? If you are we three would, respectfully, invite you to listen to our rationale and give it some thought in the context of your day-to-day activities with other people's brains and the learning outcomes you are hoping to achieve with them.

    If you are on LinkedIn you might even like to go and contribute to the discussion below a post Judy put up a week ago about education in Finland versus education in North America. You can read it HERE

    To learn more about the contributors to this podcast visit:
    Caroline Swinton - https://www.facebook.com/madrelinguadilondra
    Judy Thompson - https://thompsonlanguagecenter.com/#aboutjudythompson
    Jason West - https://englishoutthere.com/about-us/about-us


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    42 mins
  • Episode 10: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 10 - Caprice on EOT Summer School - Context - Personalisation
    Sep 20 2024

    This week Caroline and I talk with our special guest Caprice Jackson, the director of the English Out There summer school. Caprice has been running it every year since 2009 and has a wealth of knowledge about languages, language learning, teaching English (in a London further education college) and the summer school style of English Out There...carried out without classrooms and on the streets of London for real speaking practice with Londoners in every session!

    Listen to Jason and Caroline discuss with Caprice how EOT stopped using classrooms completely years ago and how Caprice has adapted her teaching style from the classroom to the public realm with huge success in terms of learner speaking improvement in just the ten lessons (2 weeks) with each separate group.

    The conversation starts with the EOT summer school and then moves into how both Caroline and Caprice see the method or process of EOT to be completely different from conventional ELT and much more inherently personalised and contextually meaningful for each and every individual learner.

    There were a few surprises along the way! Have a listen.

    To learn more about the contributors to this podcast visit:
    Caprice Jackson - https://www.linkedin.com/in/caprice-jackson-84951911
    Caroline Swinton - https://www.facebook.com/madrelinguadilondra
    Jason West - https://englishoutthere.com/about-us/about-us

    If you are a learner and wish to buy some EOT learning materials click HERE
    If you are someone who wishes to use EOT to help learners to speak English and want some materials click HERE

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    40 mins
  • Episode 9: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 9 - Learning Outcomes pt 2 + Innovation & Marketing in ELT
    Sep 7 2024

    This week Caroline wanted to say a bit more on formal learning outcomes in mainstream education leading into ELT and how we both find it perpetually surprising that the billions of English learners are, in our view, being not only let down but, worse, blamed for their failure to speak by the ELT status quo. It is changing and new ways of working have developed but no hugely profitable hegemony gives up without a scrap and Jason talks about innovating and the backlash that he experienced by just doing something differently and proving it. And proof, real proof of efficacy, should we both think be a mainstay of marketing in such an important and (potentially) life-changing practice, but it isn't. Look around! Or have a listen :-)

    To learn more about the contributors to this podcast visit:
    Caroline Swinton - https://www.facebook.com/madrelinguadilondra
    Jason West - https://englishoutthere.com/about-us/about-us

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    39 mins
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