If you’ve ever worried you’re the “lid” in your own business, this conversation will hit home. I’m Mike Duley, and I’m joined by Tina Johnson, CEO Team/ Leader of Keller Williams Market Pro Realty in Northwest Arkansas, to talk about what real growth looks like when you’re leading agents, recruiting talent, and trying to build something that lasts.

We get specific about the real estate leadership habits that compound: staying authentic, listening longer than you talk, and asking questions that uncover what people actually want. Tina shares how she thinks about recruiting growth-minded agents with integrity, why “attracting” works better than chasing, and how systems and models keep you from relying on luck. We also swap the resources that shape our thinking, from John Maxwell to The Infinite Game, plus why execution matters more than information.

Then we shift into wealth building and impact. Tina breaks down her family’s next venture: sober living homes for people leaving rehab who need clean, structured housing at a reasonable cost. We talk about what an ideal property looks like, why landlords could see it as a win-win, and how real estate investing can support affordable housing and recovery.

You’ll also hear forward-looking ideas on land, multifamily, co-living, and even how driverless cars could reshape development opportunities. Big thanks to our sponsor, Mutual Omaha Mortgage. If you got value, subscribe, share the show, and leave a five-star review so more leaders can find it.