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Episode 003: Triple Trot Troubles

Episode 003: Triple Trot Troubles

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Glowie and Capy break down a Trotskyite TikTok discourse spiral over Vietnam, “campism,” whether Ho Chi Minh was secretly just a nationalist, and other common trot nonsense.


In this episode we cover:

  • Capy's sarcastic TikTok about Ho Chi Minh being a “campist” and the backlash from a Trot invoking the so-called “Saigon Commune” to argue Vietnam betrayed “true socialism.”
  • The claim that Vietnam’s revolution “did nothing for 50 years,” and the broader Trotskyist rejection of actually existing socialism (AES), including Vietnam.
  • Abstract debates about democratic centralism and what alternatives Trots have to offer.
  • A recurring pattern: Trots denounce AES and exit the conversation once asked to substantiate their claims.



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