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Episode 1: The Outsider

Episode 1: The Outsider

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Was Abe Lincoln a gay man? Jonathan Shapiro and Greg Grunberg kick off this brand new podcast about applying the principles of Abe Lincoln to the modern world by seeking facts and approaching Abe with an honest and truthful perspective. The greatest president of all time always had an interest in bettering himself, which was what made author Jonathan Shapiro want to write his book How to Be Abe Lincoln: Seven Steps to Leading an Extraordinary Life and to start this podcast alongside it. This episode covers "self help" and Abe's striving for betterment, character flaws, Abe's documented love life, how Abe grew up an outsider which colored his perspective on leadership, and the reason why we need Abe's insight now more than ever in a very divided country. 

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