🎙 Episode 4: Learning to See Clearly → Neutrality, Perception & Presence
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🎙 Episode 4: Learning to See Clearly → Neutrality, Perception & Presence
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About this listen
In this follow-up to last week’s Learn Pillar conversation, Milton and Victoria dive deeper into what it actually means to see clearly in the present moment.
They explore the difference between gathering data versus observing reality, why neutrality creates space for curiosity, and how we mistake “understanding” for “experiencing.”
Milt talks about a moment teaching at the jail where his intentions didn’t match what the group actually needed, and Victoria shares her own struggle with wanting to fully understand clients by imagining (or overidentifying with) their experiences.
Together, they break down how the Learn pillar trains you to: • Build precise perception • Notice when bias or assumptions creep in • Stay with the moment itself, not the past or future • Listen more than you label • Release pressure to “get it right” before you even begin
🎧 If you tend to overthink, over-explain, or over-prepare before acting, this episode brings a grounded, compassionate look at learning to just be here.