Episode 5: Don’t Say Gay
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Episode 5: Don’t Say Gay
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About this listen
Online media that promotes misogyny often also includes gender policing around LGBTQ+ issues. In this episode, leading extremism expert Cynthia Miller-Idriss explores the erasure of gender nonconformity with Kaitlyn Tierney, co-founder of the nonprofit Diverting Hate, and speaks to Christopher and Tobi Lennertz for a family’s perspective on their real, lived experiences.
Host:
Cynthia Miller-Idriss, Founding Director of The Polarization & Extremism Research & Innovation Lab (PERIL) at American University
Guests:
Kaitlyn Tierney, policy advocate and CEO & Co-Founder of Diverting Hate
Christopher & Tobi Lennertz, Father and son
Read more in Miller-Idriss’s book, “Man Up: The New Misogyny & the Rise of Extremism” published in 2025 by Princeton University Press, available here.