In this late-night episode of "Horror Healing," Jaye and El delve into the chilling story of Mel Ignatow and Brenda Sue Schaefer, exploring the dark intricacies of grooming, physical, sexual, and psychological abuse.

Join Jaye and El as they navigate through the unsettling timeline of Mel and Brenda's relationship, shedding light on red flags that often go unnoticed. From controlling behaviors to the horrifying climax, they unravel the layers of manipulation and control that defined this tragic tale in the 1980s.

After recounting the story, they engage in a dynamic discussion, sharing real-life examples and insights from their listeners about early warning signs in relationships. They explore topics like love bombing, isolation, and the subtle nuances of difficult personalities.

Whether you're looking to understand the dynamics of abusive relationships or seeking to identify red flags in your own life, this episode offers both a gripping narrative and practical advice. Tune in for an eye-opening conversation that blends true crime with valuable lessons on emotional well-being.

If you have a story of domestic violence grooming, love bombing, getting out, or healing from these relationships and difficult people that you would like us to read on future episodes please email them to horrorhealingpodcast@gmail.com.