What happens when two business coaches attend a major national music conference?

In this episode, Michelle and Sara share their experience from the 2026 Music Teachers National Association conference in Chicago. From the fun and energizing moments to the deeper patterns they observed in how musicians approach business, money, and growth.

They go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the mindset shifts required to move from “artist” to confident business owner.

• The highs (and exhaustion) of attending a national conference
• The problem with vague goals like “more students”
• Scarcity mindset and fear around investing in your business
• The shift from “pick me” to taking ownership of your career
• Why financial literacy is a game changer for music teachers

You don’t just have a business – you need to learn how to run one.

How to Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast for creative entrepreneurs and service-based business owners who want to thrive professionally without sacrificing their values, peace, or creative integrity. Michelle and Sara share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business coaching or “just follow my simple formula” advice.

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