This week, Leise and Royce jump from the glamour of the Met Gala to the chaos of internet culture, politics, identity, and healing — all in one unfiltered conversation.

They break down the biggest moments from Beyoncé and the MET, react to conversations around strip clubs shutting down, and unpack updates from the White House Correspondents’ Dinner. Then the conversation shifts deeper into voting rights, the feeling that “the spirit died” in culture, and why people still casually use “gay” as an insult in 2026.

The episode also dives into reactions surrounding Ray J and Cam’ron’s interview, whether society gives Michael Jackson too much grace, and a brutally honest discussion about whether people actually heal — or just learn how to rebrand their trauma.

Later, Leise and Royce discuss the controversy surrounding Dr. Cheyenne Bryant and the ongoing online conversations about credentials, accountability, and expertise in the self-help era.

Funny, messy, serious, and painfully real — this episode moves from celebrity culture to personal growth without losing the humor in between.

Topics Include:

• Beyoncé & the MET
• Strip clubs are shutting down
• WHCD updates
• Voting rights
• “The spirit died” conversation
• “Gay” used as an insult
• Ray J & Cam’ron interview reactions
• Do we give Michael Jackson too much grace?
• Do people actually heal?
• Dr. Cheyenne Bryant's controversy