Episodes

  • The Budgeting Method That Actually Sticks: Values-Based Budgeting Explained | 108

    The Budgeting Method That Actually Sticks: Values-Based Budgeting Explained | 108
    Jul 3 2026

    LEAVE A REVIEW on Apple Podcasts for a chance to Win JL Collins’ A Simple Path To Wealth!

    Most budgets fail, and it's not because you lack discipline. It's because traditional budgeting is built backwards. In this solo episode of the Extreme Personal Finance Show, Chris breaks down why budgets collapse the same way diets do, and introduces values-based budgeting as the fix.

    Pulling from research on money scripts (Dr. Brad Klontz) and Ramit Sethi's conscious spending plan and money dials concept, Chris walks through a practical, do-it-at-home exercise: pick five core values, rank them, automate your fixed costs, and spend the rest guilt free on what actually matters to you. Along the way, he shares the data on why 83% of Americans say they overspend, why 84% of people with a monthly budget blow past it, and why a huge chunk of people can't even tell you what they spent last month.

    If you've ever felt like a failure for "cheating" on your budget, this episode reframes the problem and gives you a values-first system that's actually built to last.

    Bonus: this episode doubles as a preview of the in-person workshop happening at the Benjamins After Dark meetup in the Twin Cities on July 15th.


    Contact Chris:

    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.facebook.com/MoneyHeavyMetal

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    https://www.instagram.com/chrisluger

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    email: chris at heavymetal.money


    Resources and Links:


    The Heavy Metal Money Mosh Pit

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/heavymetalmoney


    The Benjamins After Dark Meetup Group

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/stackingbenjaminstwincities


    Values-Based Budgeting Event in the Twin Cities, MN
    https://www.facebook.com/share/1HD5BRCbhk/


    https://heavymetal.money/moneyscript


    I Will Teach You to Be Rich: No Guilt. No Excuses. Just a 6-Week Program That Works

    by Ramit Sethi
    https://a.co/d/0cTHyZ6B


    https://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com


    SPEND ON WHAT YOU VALUE

    https://heavymetal.money/spend-on-value/


    DR. BRAD KLONTZ

    https://www.bradklontz.com


    https://www.youtube.com/@DrBradKlontz


    Paula Pant at Afford Anything

    https://affordanything.com



    Contact Chris:
    https://heavymetal.money

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    https://www.youtube.com/@heavymetalmoney

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    email: chris at heavymetal.money
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    24 mins
  • Money Scripts: Why You Handle Money the Way You Do | 107

    Money Scripts: Why You Handle Money the Way You Do | 107
    Jun 19 2026

    Money Scripts: Why You Handle Money the Way You Do | 107

    There's a subconscious reason why and how you make every money decision.

    In this solo episode, Chris dives into money scripts, the subconscious beliefs about money that get programmed into us in early childhood and quietly steer our financial lives well into adulthood. Drawing on the research of financial psychologist Dr. Brad Klontz, Chris walks through the four core money script categories (avoidance, worship, status, and vigilance), explains where these scripts come from, and breaks down the difference between a scarcity mindset and an abundance mindset, including why scarcity isn't just a feeling but an actual measurable brain response.

    Chris also gets personal, sharing a money memory from his own childhood, and explains how money scripts get passed down through generations until someone finally stops and asks "does this still serve me?" The episode wraps with reflection prompts you can use to start the conversation with your spouse, your kids, or just yourself, plus info on the free, completely anonymous Money Script Assessment available at heavymetal.money/moneyscript.

    If you've ever wondered why you avoid your bank account, why you can't stop buying things you don't need, or why money feels like a fight even when the numbers are fine, this episode RAWWWKS!


    Contact Chris:

    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.facebook.com/MoneyHeavyMetal

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    email: chris at heavymetal.money


    Resources and Links:


    DR. BRAD KLONTZ

    Financial Psychologist - Author | Professor | Speaker | Psychologist | Financial Advisor

    https://www.bradklontz.com


    https://heavymetal.money/moneyscript/


    Download the KMSI PDF Assessment
    https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/01bUVmJoHyb_FVozzM9GlUiNg#kmsi-r-revised.pdf



    Contact Chris:
    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.instagram.com/heavy_metal_money/

    https://www.youtube.com/@heavymetalmoney

    https://www.facebook.com/chrisluger

    email: chris at heavymetal.money
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    26 mins
  • 8 Money Rules with Nik Johnson | Chris on Everyday Money Heroes | 106

    8 Money Rules with Nik Johnson | Chris on Everyday Money Heroes | 106
    Jun 12 2026

    8 Money Rules with Nik Johnson | Chris on Everyday Money Heroes | 106

    Chris Luger didn't grow up wealthy. He didn't have a finance degree. He started over from scratch after a divorce in 2015, barely knowing what a budget was. Nine years later, he walked away from his W2 at 50 with a $2.5 million portfolio.

    In this episode, Chris joins Nik Johnson on Everyday Money Heroes to tell that whole story from the messy beginning, the real estate wins (and the properties he eventually had to cut loose), the power of the FIRE community, and the 8 Money Rules he lives by.

    What you'll hear in this episode:

    • How a divorce in 2015 became the catalyst for Chris's entire financial transformation
    • Why he gave himself a 10-year timeline to reach FIRE and hit it in nine
    • The mix of residential real estate and index fund investing that built his portfolio
    • Why he's now transitioning out of residential rentals and into commercial real estate
    • His 8 Money Rules — practical principles covering everything from learning the fundamentals to protecting your wealth to building an emergency fund
    • Why "money is just an amplifier" and how financial freedom lets you give back in ways you never could before


    Contact Chris:

    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.facebook.com/MoneyHeavyMetal

    https://x.com/MoneyHeavyMetal

    https://www.instagram.com/chrisluger

    https://www.tiktok.com/@heavymetalmoney

    email: chris at heavymetal.money


    Connect with Nik:

    https://everydaymoneyheroes.com

    https://www.youtube.com/@Everyday-Money-Heroes


    Resources and Links:

    MOSH PIT RULES FOR MONEY: WHAT HEAVY METAL TEACHES US ABOUT FINANCIAL SURVIVAL

    https://heavymetal.money/moshpitrules/


    Contact Chris:
    https://heavymetal.money

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    https://www.youtube.com/@heavymetalmoney

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    email: chris at heavymetal.money
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    56 mins
  • Creative and Fun Ways to Save You Money with FinanceRox | 105

    Creative and Fun Ways to Save You Money with FinanceRox | 105
    Jun 5 2026

    Creative Ways to Save Money Without Feeling Deprived with Roxanne Duckels of FinanceRox | 105

    Saving money doesn't have to feel like punishment. In this episode, Chris sits down with Roxanne Duckels, accountant, personal finance coach, and the woman behind FinanceRox, for a real, practical, and genuinely fun conversation about creative and resourceful ways to save more without losing your mind or your social life.

    Roxanne paid off $49,000 in debt and is on the path to financial independence by 39. She brings a unique perspective to saving: it's less about restriction and more about resourcefulness.

    In this episode you'll learn:

    • What "purchase procrastination" is and why Roxanne's 30-day rule beats the impulse every time
    • How to run no-spend challenges that actually work, including how to set custom rules so you don't feel like you're white-knuckling it
    • The "thrift first" strategy for buying almost anything
    • Why building skills like sewing, drain snaking, and DIY repairs beats calling a pro
    • How Buy Nothing groups and bartering can replace spending with community
    • The two money-saving prompts Roxanne uses to find alternatives before buying anything
    • Grocery hacks including the reverse shopping list, end-of-day markdowns, and pantry shopping
    • The truth about subscriptions, loyalty apps, cash back tools, and bulk buying
    • And why keeping an inventory of what you own might be the most underrated money habit

    This one is packed. Horns up. 🤘

    Guest: Roxanne Duckels | FinanceRox YouTube: youtube.com/@financerox Website: financerox.com

    Giveaway: Leave a review on Apple Podcasts to win a copy of The Student's Guide to Financial Freedom by Dr. Paris Woods.

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    Contact Chris:

    https://heavymetal.money

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    email: chris at heavymetal.money


    Resources and Links:

    FinanceRox: financerox.com

    YouTube: youtube.com/@financerox

    Amish Donuts
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB8Nq45Cjf0

    Too Good To Go App

    https://www.toogoodtogo.com/en-us

    Meta Viewpoints App (survey/passive income app)

    https://heavymetal.money/metaviewpoints/

    Buy Nothing Groups on Facebook

    The Student's Guide to Financial Freedom by Dr. Paris Woods

    Primate
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt33028778/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

    Terrible Maps

    https://www.facebook.com/TerribleMaps/


    Contact Chris:
    https://heavymetal.money

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    https://www.youtube.com/@heavymetalmoney

    https://www.facebook.com/chrisluger

    email: chris at heavymetal.money
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    55 mins
  • 10 Things From Two Dudes on One Cruise | 104

    10 Things From Two Dudes on One Cruise | 104
    May 22 2026
    What happens when you put 88 financially intentional people on a cruise ship headed to Alaska? Apparently, a lot of really good conversations, a few late nights, and at least one episode of the Extreme Personal Finance Show recorded on the fly with a phone crammed between two guys.This week, Chris is joined by returning guest Kevin Sebesta, recorded live aboard the FinTalks Cruise somewhere off the coast of the North Pacific. No script. No studio. Just two dudes unpacking what they learned from days of deep conversations with some of the most intentional people in the FI community.If you've ever wondered whether events like this are worth it, this episode will answer that question pretty quickly.What is FinTalks? FinTalks is a paid membership community started by Amberly Grant, built around a weekly Tuesday night discussion group where financially intentional people connect, share, and grow together. No random strangers offering stock tips. Just smart, thoughtful people willing to invest in their own growth and the growth of others. Here's what Chris and Kevin talk about in this one:Living Your 50s While You Still Can One of the most powerful reminders from the trip came through conversations about using your healthiest years intentionally. Inspired by the book Die With Zero and its concept of "time buckets," Chris reflects on why the activities that require physical strength and energy need to happen now, not someday. Kevin drives it home: once there's a five at the front of your age, you're not youngish anymore.Health is the Real Currency Multiple conversations on the cruise circled back to health. Members were skipping elevators, logging stair climbs from deck one to deck 14 or 15, and tracking fitness goals alongside financial ones. One community member named Keith was reportedly racking up a hundred flights of stairs a day. REM sleep, joint health, staying strong enough to do the things you want to do at 60 and beyond. Health kept coming up because the community gets it.The Price You Pay Is Not the Experience You Get Kevin makes a sharp observation here: people in inside cabins with no windows had the same level of enjoyment as people in premium suites with balconies. Because most of the experience happens outside the room, in conversations, at events, on excursions. You don't have to spend a premium to get full value from an experience.The Year of Experiments Chris met a 31-year-old at dinner who had intentionally declared a "year of experiments," committing to try things he normally wouldn't so he could arrive at 70 without regret. That conversation hit hard. It connects directly to why Chris retired early: he wanted into life, not just out of work.The One Sheet Dashboard A community member named Wally gave a presentation on his single-page life tracking system, covering finances, health habits, relationship goals, even the number of game nights with his partner each year. Whether or not a granular tracking system fits your personality, the concept of having visibility into your whole life, not just your money, sparked something for Chris. Kevin, a self-described slacker on spreadsheets, still took value from seeing how a different personality type uses structure to stay aligned.He Time, She Time, We Time A nod to Fritz Gilbert of The Retirement Manifesto, this framework came up in discussions about life design for couples. Shared goals matter, but so do individual pursuits. Not everything needs to be a joint project.Getting Out of Your Comfort Zone Chris admitted that even at an event full of community members, walking up to someone he had never met and introducing himself is still uncomfortable. He did it anyway. Kevin shares that despite appearing effortlessly social, he is genuinely an introvert who becomes something close to an extrovert only around this community. The concept of being an ambivert, someone whose social energy shifts based on environment, came up and it turns out it might be a real thing.The Phases of the FI Journey Kevin breaks this down clearly: there are people on this cruise who retired 10 years ago, people who retired last year, people who are one or two years from leaving, and people who are five to ten years out still building their foundation. Every phase has different challenges, different questions, and different energy. The beauty of being in a diverse community is that someone at every stage of the journey is in the room.Community Over Everything The Harvard Health Study's long-running research found that community, not finances or status, is one of the strongest predictors of wellbeing. Kevin references this and points to something deeper: he knows at least 20 people in this community he could call for real help, people who would show up. He shares a story about community members dropping everything to drive to a car accident on the highway to help a fellow FI friend. That is not a Facebook group. That is family.The Contrast: FinTalks Cruise vs. Monsters of ...
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    46 mins
  • From $100K in Debt to Financial Coach with Justin Bennett | 103

    From $100K in Debt to Financial Coach with Justin Bennett | 103
    May 15 2026

    From $100K in Debt to Financial Coach with Justin Bennett

    Financial coach Justin Bennett had the career, the house, and the wife by his mid-twenties. But, also over $100,000 in consumer debt he had no idea how to get out of. In this episode, Justin shares the raw, real story of how he and his wife turned it around, and how that experience launched nearly two decades of helping over 1,000 clients eliminate a combined $10 million in debt!

    We talk about why budgeting gets such a bad rep, the hidden difference between tracking and actually planning, the real reason most people are afraid to look at their own finances, and the mindset shift that has to happen before any process actually works. Justin also breaks down his 3P Framework (Principles, Processes, Plan), shares some incredible client stories, and gives a very honest take on the Buy Now, Pay Later trap that's making all of this so much harder.

    He also just happens to be a lifelong Metallica fan who met James Hetfield backstage in 2004. So there's that! \m/ \m/


    Contact Chris:

    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.facebook.com/MoneyHeavyMetal

    https://x.com/MoneyHeavyMetal

    https://www.instagram.com/chrisluger

    https://www.tiktok.com/@heavymetalmoney

    email: chris at heavymetal.money


    Resources and Links:


    https://strongtowerconsulting.com


    https://levelupyourfinances.com


    Profit First: Transform Your Business from a Cash-Eating Monster to a Money-Making Machine

    by Mike Michalowicz

    https://a.co/d/08PEtGrj


    The Money Habit: The Worry-Free Way to Financial Independence

    by Mike Michalowicz

    https://a.co/d/030t3Vk0


    Waylon Jennings talks about quitting drugs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFHKnVQZDeo


    Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones

    by James Clear

    https://a.co/d/02kAHu17

    Contact Chris:
    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.instagram.com/heavy_metal_money/

    https://www.youtube.com/@heavymetalmoney

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    email: chris at heavymetal.money
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    53 mins
  • Financial Literacy for Students: What Schools Don't Teach About Money with Dr. Paris Woods | 102

    Financial Literacy for Students: What Schools Don't Teach About Money with Dr. Paris Woods | 102
    May 8 2026

    What Nobody Told You About Money in School (And Why That Has to Change) with Dr. Paris Woods | 102

    Dr. Paris Woods is back on the Extreme Personal Finance Show, and this time she's bringing the playbook she wrote specifically for the next generation. Her new book, "The Student's Guide to Financial Freedom," released in March 2026 and is already turning heads in schools, nonprofits, and the FIRE community.

    In this episode, Chris and Dr. Woods get real about why $1.7 trillion in student loan debt doesn't have to be the default, how schools that meet 100% of demonstrated financial need are hiding in plain sight, and why "retirement" is the worst word you can use when talking to a teenager about investing.

    They also dig into the Freedom Fund concept as a more compelling alternative to traditional retirement framing, the Make, Manage, Multiply framework from the book, what first-gen college students face when they're supporting family back home while trying to build wealth, and how LinkedIn, networking, and proximity can do more for a young person's career than almost anything else.

    Plus, a conversation about Mr. Beast entering the financial services space, why crowding out bad financial information matters, and what one single habit Dr. Woods hopes every reader takes away and actually keeps.

    In this episode:

    • Is student loan debt actually unavoidable?

    • Schools that meet 100% of financial need (and why no one talks about them)

    • The Make, Manage, Multiply framework explained

    • Why "retirement" doesn't land with Gen Z and what to say instead

    • The Freedom Fund concept

    • First-gen students, family financial pressure, and learning to say no

    • The dollar game from the Bitches Get Riches podcast

    • College ROI and what universities won't tell you about job placement

    • LinkedIn as a wealth-building tool, even in high school

    • Mr. Beast and the financial services space

    • The first financial habit every student should build

    Contact Chris:
    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.instagram.com/heavy_metal_money/

    https://www.youtube.com/@heavymetalmoney

    https://www.facebook.com/chrisluger

    email: chris at heavymetal.money

    Connect with Dr. Paris Woods
    https://pariswoods.com/partnerships/

    https://www.instagram.com/authorpariswoods/


    Resources and Links:

    The Student's Guide to Financial Freedom: A Real-World Money Guide to Help Young People Build Wealth, Avoid Traps, and Plan for Freedom
    by Paris Woods
    h

    Contact Chris:
    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.instagram.com/heavy_metal_money/

    https://www.youtube.com/@heavymetalmoney

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    email: chris at heavymetal.money
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    42 mins
  • Financial Independence Mindset: Escaping the Monday Grind with Angie Callen | 101

    Financial Independence Mindset: Escaping the Monday Grind with Angie Callen | 101
    May 1 2026

    Money, Mindset, and No More Mondays: A Conversation with Angie Callen


    What does financial independence actually look like when you didn't start at 22 with a perfect plan? For a lot of us, the path to freedom started later, got derailed a few times, and looked nothing like the textbook version. That's exactly what made this conversation worth sharing.


    This week is a rebroadcast of my recent appearance on the No More Mondays Podcast with host Angie Callen. Her show is built around the belief that humans still matter, mediocrity is expensive, and ownership changes your outcomes. Pretty much the Heavy Metal Money mission in different font. We vibed immediately, and honestly, we were having so much fun before she even hit record that she almost forgot to start taping.


    What we covered:

    • What financial independence actually means outside the textbook definition, and why it comes down to time, not a magic number
    • The late bloomer perspective, and why starting at 38 or 39 is not too late to reach FI in 10 years
    • Needs vs. wants, and how getting intentional about the difference changes everything
    • Why tracking your spending is the single most important first move you can make
    • The FILE movement (Financial Independence, Live Early) and why it might resonate more than traditional FIRE
    • Knowing your "why" and why it's the thing that keeps you going when the hard months show up


    And yes, I also talked about spending $2,300 on Metallica tickets at the Sphere. Financial freedom isn't about never spending money. It's about spending it intentionally on the things that actually matter to you.

    Go check out Angie's show, No More Mondays, wherever you listen to podcasts. She's the real deal.


    Contact Chris:

    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.facebook.com/MoneyHeavyMetal

    https://x.com/MoneyHeavyMetal

    https://www.instagram.com/chrisluger

    https://www.tiktok.com/@heavymetalmoney

    email: chris at heavymetal.money


    Connect with Angie
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/angiecallen/


    Resources and People Mentioned:

    • Angie Callen and the No More Mondays Podcast
    • The Purpose Code by Dr. Jordan Grummit
    • Harvey Mackay: Swim With the Sharks Without Being Eaten Alive and Dig Your Well Before You're Thirsty


    Contact Chris:
    https://heavymetal.money

    https://www.instagram.com/heavy_metal_money/

    https://www.youtube.com/@heavymetalmoney

    https://www.facebook.com/chrisluger

    email: chris at heavymetal.money
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    33 mins