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FINE is a 4-Letter Word

FINE is a 4-Letter Word

Written by: Lori Saitz
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What happens when fine is no longer good enough? You’ve got the career, the family, all the outward signs of success. But underneath that competence and capability are quiet questions that won’t leave you alone. How do I build a legacy beyond next quarter’s revenue? Where do I find more meaning? What if I were true to myself? Welcome to Fine is a 4-Letter Word, with host Lori Saitz. Each week, you’ll hear personal stories blended with practical insight What happens when fine is no longer good enough? You’ve got the career, the family, all the outward signs of success. But underneath that competence and capability are quiet questions that won’t leave you alone. How do I build a legacy beyond next quarter’s revenue? Where do I find more meaning? What if I were true to myself? Welcome to Fine is a 4-Letter Word, with host Lori Saitz. Each week, you’ll hear personal stories blended with practical insight from leaders, creators, and change-makers, offering a window into what’s possible when you listen to and honor your heart. We explore what it takes to lead with empathy, vulnerability, gratitude, and courage, especially when everything isn’t fine. You’ll get grounded perspectives and usable tools for moving from stuck, restless, or successful-but-empty into clarity, truth, and passion. None of us knows how much time we have here. So we have to make the most of it. It’s time to live a life that feels like it belongs to you. One thing’s for sure… you’ll never hear—or say—the word “fine” in the same way again., offering a window into what’s possible when you listen to and honor your heart. We explore what it takes to lead with empathy, vulnerability, gratitude, and courage, especially when everything isn’t fine. You’ll get grounded perspectives and usable tools for moving from stuck, restless, or successful-but-empty into clarity, truth, and passion. None of us knows how much time we have here. So we have to make the most of it. It’s time to live a life that feels like it belongs to you. One thing’s for sure… you’ll never hear—or say—the word “fine” in the same way again.Copyright 2026 Lori Saitz Alternative & Complementary Medicine Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Self-Help Success
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  • 215. Nice is Not Kind with Allie Jones
    Jan 29 2026

    Growing up in Iowa, Allie Jones was immersed in a culture of “Iowa nice,” a brand of politeness defined by being helpful, agreeable, and perpetually pleasant. So not surprisingly, niceness became a core value for Allie, one that was reinforced by her community, but also complicated by its shadow: the tendency to avoid hard conversations and uncomfortable truths in favor of small talk and surface-level connections.

    Early in her career as a third-grade teacher, she poured herself into her students, striving to live up to the expectations of hard work and service. But as she recounts, supportive words from administrators weren’t matched with real action, and the relentless pace of changing curricula and high standards left her burnt out. When she realized that staying in the classroom would be the wrong kind of responsible, she left teaching, took a sabbatical to explore the country, house sat, and dipped her toes into freelance writing and marketing.

    Navigating this period of uncertainty, Allie was challenged by the perennial question, “Who am I if I’m not what I do?” She realized that so many of our identities are tied up in our job titles and professional achievements, but true fulfillment lay in embracing her transferable skills, resiliency, and capacity for connection.

    Allie now has an intention to cultivate a new version of “Iowa kind,” because there’s a difference between nice and kind. This version is rooted in authentic connection and courageous conversation, not just politeness.

    As a business and leadership consultant, Allie is also helping others step into their own authenticity.

    Listen in to hear her story of moving beyond the safety of “nice” to the richer, more complicated rewards of being kind, in community, conversation, and career. In facing discomfort and embracing change, Allie models what it means to answer the question “How are you?” with truth and intentionality.

    Allie’s hype song is Honeypie by JAWNY

    RESOURCES

    1. Allie Jones’ website: alliejonesconsulting.com
    2. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/allie-s-jones/
    3. Instagram: instagram.com/alliejonesconsulting


    Invitation from Lori:

    This episode is sponsored by Zen Rabbit. Smart leaders know trust is the backbone of a thriving workplace, and in today’s hybrid whirlwind, it doesn’t grow from quarterly updates or the occasional Slack ping. It grows from steady, human communication.

    Plenty of companies think they’re doing great because they host all-staff meetings, keep “open door” policies, and throw the occasional team-building event. Meanwhile, leaders who truly care about culture are choosing better tools.

    That’s where I come in. Forward-thinking organizations bring me in to create internal podcasts that connect people through real stories, honest conversations, and genuine community—your old printed newsletter reinvented for the way people actually work now.

    If you run, work for, or know a company ready to upgrade communication and strengthen culture, reach out at Lori@ZenRabbit dot...

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  • 214. I Divorced My Parents with Andrew Quebbemann
    Jan 22 2026

    Raised in a hardworking, Catholic family that seemed picture-perfect from the outside, Andrew Quebbemann learned early on the value of self-reliance and doing things for yourself. But it was during a pivotal moment at age sixteen—choosing not to get confirmed into the church—that he first exercised the courage to honor his own convictions over societal or familial expectations. That decision, viewed as rebellious by his parents, was also his first bold step toward living authentically and questioning what really worked for him, rather than simply following the script laid out for him.

    This early demonstration of independent thinking set the stage for a pattern that has defined Andrew's adult life. Whether leaving corporate America after looking around and finding no one he wanted to emulate or choosing to go plant-based overnight simply because it felt right for his body, Andrew developed what he calls psychological agility—the capacity to make swift decisions and take action when something no longer serves him.

    However, this same strength became a source of deep conflict within his family, where relationships had always been transactional and understanding seemed impossible to achieve. After years of trying to navigate increasingly difficult family dynamics that affected both him and his wife, Andrew made the painful decision to request a three-month break from his parents to reevaluate their relationship as adults. Their response was a brutal phone call filled with insults, which marked the beginning of a three-year estrangement that continues today, despite Andrew's willingness to engage in family therapy.

    The loss of his parents while they're still alive has required Andrew to mourn a relationship he thought he had. He candidly shares how stepping away from toxic dynamics allowed him to embrace self-care, protect his marriage, and redefine how he wants to show up in the world.

    Through therapy and a daily meditation practice inspired by Indian mystic Sadhguru, Andrew has learned to find peace within himself rather than seeking validation from those who may never be capable of providing it. His story illustrates the heartbreaking reality that sometimes loving someone means accepting that a healthy relationship with them may not be possible, and making decisions that honor your well-being is necessary for survival.

    Hype Song:

    Andrew’s hype song is One Step Closer by Linkin Park

    Resources:

    1. Andrew’s Website: https://goldbookfinancial.com/our-team/andrew-quebbemann/
    2. LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-quebbemann/
    3. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andrewquebbemann/

    Invitation from Lori:

    This episode is sponsored by Zen Rabbit. Smart leaders know trust is the backbone of a thriving workplace, and in today’s hybrid whirlwind, it doesn’t grow from quarterly updates or the occasional Slack ping. It grows from steady, human communication.

    Plenty of companies think they’re doing great because they host all-staff meetings,

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  • 213. Change Your Mind About It with Stef Warlick
    Jan 15 2026

    Stef Warlick grew up with the kind of values that leave a lasting imprint. Guided by a mother who came from a strict Catholic upbringing and believed deeply in championing the underdog and showing relentless kindness, Stef was immersed from a young age in principles of empathy, hard work, and accountability. “If you can’t change something, change your mind about it” was a guiding family mantra.

    Those early teachings became the blueprint for how Stef approached life and work. Stef's career in government contracting and corporate environments taught her invaluable lessons about gathering complete information before making decisions, thanks to a mentor who emphasized that "there are more than two sides to every story." This wisdom became crucial during a devastating personal tragedy involving her beloved pets, which left Stef walking through life in a fog. It was a period of numbness so acute it felt like an out-of-body experience.

    Worse still was overhearing people, unaware she was within earshot, harshly judging her character based solely on this single, painful event. That incident carved a groove in her understanding of empathy: you never know what someone else is carrying, and judgment without context is more than unfair—it’s destructive.

    Stef became even more attuned to the stories people keep hidden and the resilience they muster just to keep going.

    Now focused on building inclusive teams and communities, Stef has learned that diversity isn't just about checking boxes but about creating environments where people feel genuinely seen and valued. Her approach to working with people with disabilities exemplifies this philosophy. Rather than tiptoeing around differences or making assumptions, she advocates for direct, respectful communication that treats everyone as a whole person worthy of authentic connection. Her story illustrates how our most painful experiences can become our greatest teachers if we're willing to learn from them.

    Hype Song:

    Stef’s hype song is Girl on Fire by Alicia Keys

    Resources:

    1. Stephanie Warlick’s website: https://www.stephaniewarlick.com/
    2. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniewarlick/
    3. X: https://x.com/5FTV_Consulting
    4. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61579261754103

    Invitation from Lori:

    This episode is sponsored by Zen Rabbit. Smart leaders know trust is the backbone of a thriving workplace, and in today’s hybrid whirlwind, it doesn’t grow from quarterly updates or the occasional Slack ping. It grows from steady, human communication.

    Plenty of companies think they’re doing great because they host all-staff meetings, keep “open door” policies, and throw the occasional team-building event. Meanwhile, leaders who truly care about culture are choosing better tools.

    That’s where I come in. Forward-thinking organizations bring me in to create internal podcasts that connect people through real stories, honest...

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