What does it take to lead with integrity in a culture where leadership is often viewed as a pathway to power, status, and personal gain?
In this episode, we sit down with Bishop Dr David Oginde—former bishop, leadership scholar, consultant, and now Chairperson of Kenya's Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission.
David shares his remarkable journey from studying architecture to spending decades in student ministry, church leadership, leadership development, and eventually stepping into one of the most challenging public roles in Kenya.
We explore why leadership begins with self-awareness, how identity shapes integrity, and what happens when leaders pursue influence for what they can get rather than what they can give. David also offers practical insights from his leadership training work, including his powerful framework: Know Yourself. Accept Yourself. Appreciate Yourself.
The conversation then turns to corruption, ethics, and public service. David reflects on the realities of combating corruption, the risks involved, and why he still believes transformation is possible.
01:01 Introduction and Background
01:23 From Architecture to Ministry
02:31 Eleven Years with FOCUS
03:01 Becoming a Bishop
03:25 Transition During the Pandemic
04:12 Academic Journey in Leadership
05:18 Life Lessons in Leadership
06:54 Training the Next Generation
08:07 The Catalead Consultancy
08:50 High Impact Leader Program
10:13 Building Leadership Muscles
10:29 Growing Leadership Capital
11:28 Leadership Without a Title
12:39 Changing the Tide in Africa
13:38 Leadership for Impact Not Gain
14:27 Sacrificing Status for Service
16:55 Leadership Crisis in the Church
18:13 Empowering Through Self Confidence
19:01 Biblical Foundation of Leadership
19:40 Know Accept Appreciate Yourself
22:21 Identity and Material Possessions
23:02 Corruption and Self-Worth
24:13 Leading the Anti-Corruption Commission
26:09 From Leadership Studies to Government
27:59 The Appointment Process
29:14 Parliamentary Vetting on Live TV
29:35 Inside the Fight Against Corruption
30:28 Global Corruption Networks
31:28 Dangers of the Role
32:15 Recent Attack on Staff
33:25 Why Take This Risk
34:22 Life with Bodyguards
35:02 Committed Young Investigators
37:43 Hope for Kenya's Future
38:13 Prayer and Divine Intervention
39:39 The Jericho Strategy
40:34 David Facing Goliath
41:00 Closing Prayers and Gratitude