This is a live recording from the 10th June 2025 at the National Association of Healthcare Fire Officers.

With guests Peter Aldridge

Jim Miller

and

Jak Ryan

You can join NAHFO at https://nahfo.org

This years event was sponsored by Birmingham Dogs Home

www.birminghamdogshome.org.uk

This episode looks at Volume 2 Chapter 24 of the Grenfell Phase 2 Inquiry report specifically;

1. Celotex RS5000 Insulation

A. Introduction

B. Background

i. Key Personnel & Management

ii. The Acquisition by Saint Gobain

iii. Lambda Values

iv. The Change of Polyol

C. The Development of RS5000

i. Genesis of the "Above 18m Project": 2008 - 2012

ii. Allocation to Jonathan Roper: 2012 - 2013

iii. June 2013: Business Case

iv. Celotex's Investigations during 2013

v. Sotech and IFC: June - October 2013

vi. Discussions with BRE: May and October 2013

vii. The Roper-Evans Exchange: 1st November 2013

vii. 4th November 2013 Meeting - The 5 Options

viii. The Decision to Proceed

ix. Designing the Test

x. The First Test: 14th February 2014

xi. Reaction to the First Failed Test

xii. Decision to Restest

xiii. Design Changes

xiv. No New Drawings

xv. Source of Materials

xvi. The Second Test - May 2014

xvii. BRE's Knowledge of the Design Changes

xviii. Decisions Following the Second Test

xix. The Slide Show

xx. Instructions to Produce Slides "For General Business Use"

D. BRE Draft Report

i. Discussion of the Draft Report

ii. Decision not to Correct the Report

iii. Request to Remove Figure 18

iv. Internal Review and Issue of the Report

v. Mr Clark's Involvement in the BRE Test Report

vi. The RS5000 Classification Report

vii. The Abridged Report

viii. The Marketing of RS5000

ix. The RS5000 Marketing Literature

x. The Compliance Guide

xi. The Specification Guide

xii. Other Marketing Documents

xiii. Internal Launch of RS5000

E. Aftermath of the Launch

i. Relations with NHBC

ii. Problems in the Market

iii.LABC Approval

iv. Handover to Debbie Berger

v. Contact with BRE

vi. February 2015: Market Analysis Slideshow

vii. Desktop Study (March 2015)

viii. Exova's Draft Report

ix. NHBC's Reaction

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A follow up episode looking at the last 2 weeks events regarding EWS1 forms and the reactions from industry and people affected.

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