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For The Record

For The Record

Written by: Tiphany Hall PhD
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Welcome to For the Record, your unfiltered view on current trends and timeless advice for surviving in the Aesthetic industry. Whether you're an injector, practice owner, sales rep or marketer, it's time to set the record straight! Each week we showcase disruptive thinkers, industry innovators, and the aesthetic masterminds driving our industry forward. For the Record is hosted by Dr. Tiphany Hall, Chief Growth Officer at Aesthetic Record, an EMR & Practice Management Software devoted to the Aesthetic Industry.Tiphany Hall, PhD Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
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  • Epsiode 120: A Date with the Deubers with Cary Deuber, RN, CRNFA & Mark Deuber, MD
    Nov 17 2025
    For the Season 6 finale, we sit down with the dynamic Dallas duo behind Lemmon Avenue Plastic Surgery & Laser Center: Cary Deuber, RN, CRNFA, CANS, co-founder, aesthetic injector and medical spa director, and Dr. Mark Deuber, co-founder and board-certified plastic surgeon. What follows is a fast-paced, funny, brutally honest conversation about running a business with your spouse, building a multi-location practice, staying on the cutting edge, and navigating an industry where perfect is often the enemy of real.Building a Marriage, a Practice, and a Fulfilled LifeCary and Dr. Deuber have spent decades shaping Lemmon Avenue into a full-spectrum aesthetic destination with nearly 30 employees across Dallas and Frisco. Their partnership thrives on division of labor: Dr. Deuber handles finances, surgical practice, and surgery center (and the cooking!) while Cary oversees the people, the culture, and the medical spa. The option to travel or take time away as a family without the practice falling apart didn’t come from luck—it came from intentionally hiring and developing people who could be trusted with their patients, their brand, and their business.What Keeps the Deuber Machine Running:• A team empowered to make decisions without constant oversight• Clear roles between the two of them - they can swim faster in their own lane!• A strong focus on business operations and creating systems that don’t require Cary or Dr. Deuber to function day-to-dayWhy Their Full-Spectrum Model Protects PatientsThe Deubers have built a destination practice for the aesthetic patient. With surgery, injectables, lasers, and skincare unified under one roof, patients can get what they actually need—no more, no less, and no need to leave Lemmon Avenue for their full treatment plan. They don’t rush to offer the latest trends- instead, they focus on offering a robust list of vetted treatments that are safe, effective, and FDA approved (no gray area!)Their Treatment Philosophy:• Avoid “filler face” by diversifying modalities• Use biostimulators thoughtfully and correctly• Prioritize natural anatomy and natural resultsRewriting the Facelift NarrativeDr. Deuber is leading with innovation on the plastic surgery front with the re-envisioned deep-plane facelift. He shares more about his innovative technique that delivers the same great results but with dramatically reduced swelling, and recovery timelines that have patients returning to their day to day in under a week.From Reality TV to Real ProfessionalismCary shares her journey from Real Housewives of Dallas fame to respected aesthetic expert. While the TV spotlight brought a lot of positives, it also brought trolls, something she’s learned to ignore. Her response? She’s not trying to win them over —she’s here to be authentic, serve patients well, and keep her face as natural as her personality. Advice From the Deubers:• Authenticity outperforms perfection• Internet criticism rarely comes from people you’d take advice from• 4-day work weeks help you avoid burnout & stay focused with your time• Skill and integrity build reputation—TV doesn’tThe Deuber PhilosophyWhether you’re a new injector or scaling a multi-location practice, Cary and Dr. Deuber offer a refreshing message: stay authentic, stay educated, delegate wisely, and remember that natural, safe results never go out of style. Their balance of innovation, clinical excellence, family time and personal fulfillment offers a roadmap for anyone building a long-term future in aesthetics.Connect with The Deubers• Lemmon Avenue Plastic Surgery: https://www.lemmonavenueplasticsurgery.com/• Instagram: @Lemmonavenue, @CaryDeuber, @DrMarkDeuber,• Food & lifestyle: @Deubertable
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    34 mins
  • Episode 119: Legal, Compliance and Malpractice Insights Every Medspa Must Know
    Nov 10 2025

    Running a medical spa today means balancing artistry with accountability. In this powerful episode taken from a lunch keynote at Aesthetic Next, we unpack the high-stakes world of compliance, malpractice, and risk management with four industry leaders who’ve lived it from every angle — legal, financial, operational, and clinical. Whether you’re growing your med spa, preparing for sale, or simply trying to avoid costly mistakes, this conversation is your blueprint for protecting your practice and elevating your business value.

    Featuring:

    Justin Marti, Founder & Lead Attorney, Marti Law Group

    Ben Hernandez, Managing Partner & CEO, Skytale Group

    Dr. Justin Harper, Founder of Juvly Aesthetics & CEO of Aesthetic Record

    Brian King, Healthcare Practice Lead, Trucordia / ARAssurance

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    The Uncomfortable Truth About Compliance

    Compliance isn’t optional—it’s the foundation of your practice’s value. As Dr. Harper explains, “If you haven’t been investigated yet, you probably will.” Investigations are no longer rare; they’re a byproduct of success. Regulators—often unfamiliar with their own evolving rules—are now watching aesthetics closely.

    Key Pitfalls:

    • Hiring attorneys unfamiliar with medical aesthetics.

    • Allowing regulators to overreach beyond the initial complaint.

    • Copying what others do on social media without knowing if it’s legal.

    Takeaway: Every chart, protocol, and delegation agreement is a legal document in disguise. If it’s not documented, it didn’t happen. And, when the Board Shows Up: Protocol Over Panic

    The Regulatory Landscape Is Tightening

    Justin Marti sees the trend clearly: it’s not just medical and nursing boards anymore. Pharmacy boards, OSHA, and consumer protection agencies are all getting involved. Even your marketing can get you in trouble—especially if you make unsubstantiated claims about treatments or devices.

    The key is proactive transparency and evidence-based protocols. If regulators are uncertain, they default to caution. That means you must be more diligent than ever.

    Medical Direction: The Most Overlooked Risk

    According to Marti, too many “medical directors” exist only on paper. True oversight means routine meetings, documented delegation agreements, and defined procedures for when your medical director is unavailable.

    Compliance & Valuation: Two Sides of the Same Coin

    Ben Hernandez takes it to the bottom line: every compliance gap is a discount on your practice valuation. Private equity buyers pay for clean books and de-risked operations, not chaos.

    What buyers look for:

    • Active provider licenses

    • Valid MSO/MSA structures

    • No outstanding lawsuits or board complaints

    • Documented oversight and chart compliance

    If your $5M practice has regulatory red flags, expect the buyer to hold back cash—or walk.

    The Malpractice Myth: Paying for Coverage You Don’t Need

    Brian King pulls back the curtain on malpractice insurance. Most med spas are stuck paying for coverage designed for surgeons or dermatologist doing more invasive procedures you don’t perform. You’re effectively subsidizing other specialties’ risk.

    Enter ARassurance:

    Built for medical aesthetics, it offers dedicated risk pools, relevant coverage, and responsive adaptation to new treatments. Lower cost, better protection, smarter alignment. If you are an Aesthetic Record client, you get exclusive access to this medical malpractice cost savings. Get an instant quote at https://trucordia.com/arassurance

    Final Thoughts:

    Compliance isn’t a bureaucratic chore—it’s the scaffolding that holds up your legal protection. Malpractice and compliance are inseparable. Neglect one, and you weaken both.

    Connect with the Panel

    • Justin Marti – Marti Law Group | https://www.martilawgroup.com/

    • Ben Hernandez – SkyTale | https://skytalegroup.com/

    • Dr. Justin Harper – Juvly Aesthetics | https://juvly.com

    • Brian King – Trucordia & ARassurance | https://trucordia.com/ARassurance

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    47 mins
  • Episode 118: The Regenerative Era with Dana Herbertson, SFA, MEP-C
    Oct 28 2025

    In this episode of For The Record, we sit down with Dana Herbertson, SFA, MEP-C, AEST, CLT, Owner of The Derm Lounge Med Spa in Dallas and a true force in the medical aesthetics industry. With nearly 30 years of experience, starting as a surgical first assistant in plastic surgery and evolving into one of Dallas's most sought-after injectors, Dana brings a unique surgical perspective to aesthetic medicine that sets her apart.

    Dana's journey from the operating room to entrepreneurship wasn't straightforward. After years of assisting in surgery and fighting for more time in the injection chair, she took the leap and opened her own 900-square-foot practice. Today, she operates a stunning 3,000-square-foot med spa alongside her children Aidan and Paige, who help run every aspect of the business.

    What makes Dana's practice thrive even as the industry faces a 17-20% downturn? It's her commitment to genuine relationships over transactions, her surgical-level precision in everything from threads to peptides, and her willingness to say "no" to filler more often than "yes." She's not running a factory—she's creating transformations that honor anatomy, safety, and the natural beauty of each patient.

    Throughout this conversation, Dana opens up about the realities of family business dynamics, the art and science of thread lifting (complete with sterile technique that would make any OR nurse proud), and her pioneering work with bio-regenerative medicine—from polynucleotides for skin rejuvenation to peptide protocols that are changing the menopause game for women everywhere.

    What You'll Learn:

    The surgical advantage: How Dana's background as a surgical first assistant informs her approach to threads, anatomy, and sterile technique, and why cadaver courses are non-negotiable for providers doing threads

    Family business dynamics: The benefits of working with your children, and how Aidan and Paige transformed Dana from overwhelmed solo practitioner to efficient CEO

    Mastering threads: Why infection control is everything, the importance of multiple trainings (not just one).

    The filler paradox: Why Dana now says "no" to filler more than "yes," and how bio-stimulators, threads, and regenerative treatments are creating better, more natural results than the heavy filler faces of years past

    Peptides & menopause: Dana's game-changing insights on how GLP-1s and peptide protocols are revolutionizing menopause management.

    The mesoneedling revolution: How Dana uses Toskani’s polynucleotide cocktails with precision needling techniques to wake up dormant cells and reverse skin aging at the cellular level

    Hair restoration breakthroughs: The stunning results Dana's achieving with PDO smooth threads, PDRN hair cocktails, and consistent monthly treatments that rival hair transplant results.

    Surviving economic downturns: Practical wisdom from someone who's weathered multiple market crashes, including why patient loyalty and authentic relationships matter more than ever when the industry is down 20%

    • Efficiency without sacrifice: How Dana uses headsets, multiple treatment rooms, and skilled assistants to scale her practice without turning it into a patient factory

    • What's next in bio-regenerative medicine: A sneak peek at NTCF and other European innovations Dana's watching that could be coming to the US market soon

    Whether you're a new injector looking to expand your skillset, a practice owner trying to scale efficiently, or simply curious about the cutting edge of regenerative aesthetics, Dana's insights offer a masterclass in combining surgical precision with entrepreneurial vision—all while keeping the patient experience at the heart of everything.

    Connect with Dana:

    Dana's IG: https://www.instagram.com/botoxbarbiedana/

    The Derm Lounge IG: https://www.instagram.com/thedermloungemedspa/

    The Derm Lounge Web: https://thedermlounge.com/

    For Training Opportunities: Contact The Derm Lounge directly to schedule hands-on training sessions


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    48 mins
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