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Form & Structure

Form & Structure

Written by: Patrick Murck Founder & CEO of Surus
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 Hosted by Patrick Murck, Founder and CEO of Surus, this series explores the intersection of policy, technology, and financial innovation. Form & Structure is presented by Surus, an institutional-grade, regulated asset management and custody platform that will enable builders and investors to engage in the on-chain economy.2024 Economics
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  • Regulate Who Controls the Money, Not 'Decentralization'

    Regulate Who Controls the Money, Not 'Decentralization'
    Dec 3 2025

    U.S. policymakers continue to wrestle with how to regulate decentralized finance, stablecoins, and the broader crypto ecosystem. But as our guests Rebecca Rettig and Mike Mosier argue, the central challenge has never been "decentralization." Instead, the real regulatory question is who has independent control over other people's value.
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    43 mins
  • Don't F** It Up: Why Congress Has One Shot at Crypto Market Structure

    Don't F** It Up: Why Congress Has One Shot at Crypto Market Structure
    Nov 10 2025

    In this monthly policy roundtable, Patrick Murck is joined by Greg Xethalis (General Counsel, Multicoin Capital) and Karen Ubell (Partner, Goodwin) to break down the urgent push for crypto market structure legislation before midterms. They discuss Mike Selig's nomination to chair the CFTC and what his crypto expertise means for the agency's expansion into spot markets. They examine whether Congress should rush legislation or take time to get it right, what the Binance listing terms leak reveals about US regulatory arbitrage, and why moving from 54 state licenses to federal oversight matters for competitiveness.
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    46 mins
  • Surus Partners with Protocol Labs to Launch PL Alignment Asset

    Surus Partners with Protocol Labs to Launch PL Alignment Asset
    Oct 10 2025

    Protocol Labs' Juan Benet (Founder & CEO) and Diana Stern (Deputy General Counsel) join Patrick Murck on this week's episode. They discuss launching the PL 'alignment asset' token as a novel way to share incentives across Protocol Labs' network of over 700 companies.

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    1 hr and 12 mins
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