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Black Leadership Erased and Under Pressure: Could We Still Serve in This America?

In this powerful Season 2 conversation, Tommie and Lance ask a bold question: “If we had to serve today, could we do it in this America — as Black men, as leaders, and as veterans?”

This episode goes deep into:

•The weight and responsibility of leading while Black

•How the social and political climate has shifted for Black service members

•Moments from our military careers that shaped how we lead today

•Whether today’s environment would support—or reject—the way we served

•How brotherhood, mentorship, and lived experience inform our leadership now

•The truth about the emotional load Black men carry when leading in high-expectation spaces

•How we protect our mental health while showing up for family, community, and the next generation

This is one of our most honest conversations — challenging, vulnerable, reflective, and real.

Let’s keep the conversation going.

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Before you leave, you think you know what it means to deploy. But the reality? You don't really know what you are in for. It changes everything.

In this episode, we talk about the emotional weight of deployment, the anticipation, the distance, the impact on family, and the moment you realize life doesn’t pause just because you’re gone.

We share our personal experiences navigating our first deployment:

•The mindset before that first deployment

•How being away affects your marriage, your kids, and your mental health

•What reintegration really looks like (and why it’s harder than people think)

•And the long-term ripple effects that deployments leave behind

This isn’t just about military duty, it’s about what happens when your world splits in two: the mission and the people you love.

For every veteran who deployed and every family who waited, this one’s for you.

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How your purpose, pain, and persistence fuel your personal drive

What really keeps you going? Is it passion, pressure, pain, or purpose?

In this honest and powerful conversation, Tommie and Lance break down the real meaning of motivation — beyond clichés and buzzwords. They talk about what drove them early in life, how that motivation changed through their military careers, and what keeps them grounded today as Black men, husbands, fathers, and veterans.

From ambition to adversity, they explore the fine line between healthy drive and burnout — and how knowing your why changes everything.

💬 Tune in to this episode for real talk on growth, purpose, and staying the course.

🎧 Available now on all major podcast platforms and YouTube

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