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From Pillar to Killer

From Pillar to Killer

Written by: Whitney Curtis
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From Pillar to Killer

Virtue. Vice. Violence.

Hosted by Whitney Curtis, a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA) with a passion for understanding human behavior, From Pillar to Killer explores the chilling stories of serial killers and murderers who were once viewed as respected, trusted, and admired members of their communities.

These aren't just stories about crime, they're stories about deception, duality, and the unsettling reality that some of history's most notorious killers hid in plain sight. From business owners and community leaders to church members, volunteers, and family men, each episode examines how individuals who appeared to embody virtue ultimately descended into vice and violence.

Through a combination of true crime storytelling and behavioral insight, Whitney explores the backgrounds, behaviors, warning signs, and life histories that may have contributed to these offenders' actions, all while asking the question that fascinates true crime enthusiasts and behavior analysts alike:

How does someone go from pillar of the community to killer?

Join us as we uncover the stories behind the masks, the crimes behind the reputations, and the human behavior behind the headlines.

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Episodes
  • Episode 3: Robert Lee Yates-The Family Man Serial Killer
    Jul 3 2026

    On this episode of From Pillar to Killer, we examine the life and crimes of Robert Lee Yates, a decorated Army helicopter pilot, devoted husband, father of five, and one of Washington State's most prolific serial killers.

    For years, Yates maintained the image of a respectable family man while secretly targeting vulnerable women throughout Washington State. His ability to compartmentalize his public and private lives left investigators, psychologists, and the public struggling to understand how someone who appeared so ordinary could commit such extraordinary acts of violence.

    In this episode, we explore:

    • The childhood experiences and developmental factors that may have influenced Yates's behavior
    • The concept of compartmentalization and the "mask of sanity"
    • How organized offenders select and target vulnerable victims
    • The difference between modus operandi and signature behaviors
    • The role of trauma, personality disorders, and social learning in theories of serial homicide
    • Why serial killers continue to fascinate researchers despite the rarity of serial murder
    • How forensic evidence and survivor testimony ultimately led to Yates's arrest

    As always, this episode approaches the case through a behavioral and psychological lens. While trauma, mental health concerns, and adverse life experiences may contribute to the development of violent behavior, they do not excuse criminal actions, nor do they predict that an individual will become violent.

    Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of homicide, sexual violence, trauma, and crimes against vulnerable individuals. Listener discretion is advised.

    Sources
    • Nicole Brodeur, "This Serial Killer Has Psychiatrists Scratching Their Heads," The Seattle Times The Seattle Times Article
    • Katherine Ramsland, "Remote View of a Serial Killer," Psychology Today Psychology Today Article
    • Elvira Čekić, "Psychological Profile of Serial Killers: Analysis of Personality Traits, Motivation and Emotional Dynamics," International Journal of Psychology International Journal of Psychology Article

    Thank you for listening to From Pillar to Killer. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider following, rating, and sharing the podcast. New episodes are released regularly as we continue exploring the psychology, behavior, and hidden lives of history's most notorious offenders.

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    16 mins
  • Episode 2: BTK – The Behavior Never Stopped
    Jun 15 2026

    In this episode of From Pillar to Killer, Whitney examines one of America's most notorious serial killers through a different lens, not just the crimes, but the behavior behind them.

    Dennis Rader, better known as BTK (Bind, Torture, Kill), spent decades hiding in plain sight. He was a military veteran, husband, father, church council president, Cub Scout leader, and respected member of his Wichita, Kansas community. Behind that carefully constructed public image, however, was a man responsible for at least ten murders spanning nearly two decades.

    Rather than focusing solely on the murders themselves, this episode explores the behavioral patterns that may have maintained BTK's actions over time. Drawing from behavioral science, FBI investigative records, and research on serial homicide "cooling-off periods," Whitney discusses:

    • How fantasy, rehearsal, and stalking behaviors may have preceded the murders
    • Why BTK referred to victims as "projects"
    • The role of power, control, fear, and recognition as possible reinforcers
    • The significance of trophies and mementos found in Rader's "Mother Lode"
    • Why BTK's communication with the media may have functioned similarly to the murders themselves
    • What may explain his lengthy gaps between killings
    • How attention and publicity may have contributed to his re-emergence in 2004
    • The behavioral patterns that ultimately led to his capture

    This episode is not intended to excuse or justify Dennis Rader's actions. Instead, it examines the question at the heart of behavioral science:

    Why did the behavior occur, and what consequences may have maintained it over time?

    Listener Discretion Advised

    This episode contains discussion of homicide, violence, sexual violence, stalking, and crimes against children. Listener discretion is strongly advised.

    Sources & Further Reading
    • FBI BTK Investigation Records
    • Cooling-off Periods and Serial Homicide: A Case Study Approach to Analysing Behaviour Between Murders
    • Rader, Dennis. Court Confession and Sentencing Records
    • Rawson, Kerri. A Serial Killer's Daughter: My Story of Faith, Love, and Overcoming
    • Contemporary reporting from the Wichita Eagle and other Kansas media outlets
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    Virtue. Vice. Violence.

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    27 mins
  • Episode 1: John Wayne Gacy
    Jun 7 2026

    In this inaugural episode of From Pillar to Killer, I examine one of the most notorious serial killers in American history: John Wayne Gacy.

    Known to neighbors as a successful businessman, community volunteer, political activist, and children's entertainer, Gacy cultivated the image of a trusted pillar of his community. Behind that carefully constructed reputation, however, he was responsible for the murders of 33 young men and boys.

    Through the lens of behavior analysis, this episode explores the patterns that defined Gacy's crimes, from his use of manipulation and the infamous "handcuff trick" to the behavioral chains, reinforcement histories, and missed opportunities for intervention that allowed his violence to escalate over time. Rather than focusing solely on the crimes themselves, I will examine the warning signs, environmental variables, and behavioral patterns that often go unnoticed until it's too late.

    Most importantly, this episode remembers the victims, particularly Robert Piest, whose disappearance ultimately led investigators to uncover one of the largest serial murder cases in American history.

    Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of child abuse, sexual assault, torture, murder, and crimes against minors.

    Virtue. Vice. Violence.

    "The real story doesn't belong to John Wayne Gacy. It belongs to his victims."

    Research & Sources:

    • Defending a Monster by Sam Amirante and Danny Broderick
    • Encyclopaedia Britannica: John Wayne Gacy
    • EBSCO Research Starters: John Wayne Gacy
    • A&E: John Wayne Gacy's Childhood
    • A&E: John Wayne Gacy's Capture and the Robert Piest Investigation
    • TIME Magazine: The Real Serial Killer Who Inspired Devil in Disguise
    • Wikipedia: John Wayne Gacy
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    28 mins
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