CEO of Optimove, Pini Yakuel, returns to explore the roots of positionless thinking and how AI pushes us to visionary methods over specialization. We explore how breaking departmental siloes unlocks 88% faster campaign cycles, and why a refreshed mindset will be your strongest tool in 2026.

• Positionless marketing drove 88% campaign efficiency gains in 2025
• AI accelerates range; humans provide judgment and validation
• 70% of consumers unsubscribed from 3+ brands in 3 months
• Mindset change precedes technology adoption in successful AI integration

[00:09:20] "The biggest compliment you get is something called ‘rosh gadol’...It means, I want your head to think about more things than it's currently thinking.” – Pini Yakuel

[00:21:26] "Consumption and making decisions are the work. If you can't make decisions for yourself, you can't work with AI." – Brian Lange

[00:28:44] "We have access to knowledge on every field...we have the best personal tutor in our pockets available 24 over seven." – Pini Yakuel

[00:38:10] "It's very, very difficult to scale personalization. That's the bottom line. It's almost impossible to scale it." – Pini Yakuel

• Optimove Connect (March 2026)
• Optimove + Forrester Study: Closing the Gap Between Promise and Performance
• Optimove Marketing Fatigue Report

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Fresh from the Javits Center, Phillip, Brian, and Alicia unpack NRF 2026's dominant themes, from AI's omnipresence to its curiously low adoption among the very professionals championing it. The conversation moves beyond technology theater to explore what truly drives commerce: cultural connection, intentional brand heritage, and multiplayer engagement that treats customers as collaborators rather than data points.

• AI saturation at NRF contrasts sharply with minimal executive adoption
• Successful AI integration preserves brand heritage rather than replacing it
• Multiplayer brand engagement becomes reality through tools like Taco Bell's Fan Styleplatform
• Analog intimacy resurfaces as consumers fight against digital fatigue
• "Who here has used AI to search for a product that you would like to buy? Not a single hand went up. Three out of 300 people had used ChatGPT to search for anything." — Phillip
• "The point isn't the technology. The point is building a memorable experience that connects people to people." — Brian (referencing Taco Bell's Dane Matthews)
• "How do you take a brand that is as beloved and known for being a merchant and design-led company and use technology in a way to just add to it and not try to over modernize it?" — Alicia (on Ralph Lauren's approach)
• "Maybe people are just figuring out where they want their time and how they want to spend their time... getting back to our roots through things like mahjong, board games, and very simplified intimate spaces." — Alicia

• Future Commerce Holiday AI Report, produced in partnership with Cimulate
• More details from NRF 2026
• Our official recap of Phillip’s conversation with Dane Mathews
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