Chris Fischer, founder of OCEARCH, joins the show to break down what’s really happening beneath the surface of our oceans. He explains how great white sharks play a critical role in protecting pelagic fish spawning grounds by keeping seal populations in check, and why that balance matters more than most people realize. Chris also shares the unforgettable story of hand-hooking Mary Lee, the legendary great white shark, and tracking her movements all the way to just off the Jacksonville Beach pier. The conversation wraps with an optimistic look at the ocean today, as Chris dives into the current abundance and growth of fish populations and what it signals for the future of marine life.

Sandy Smith is a true legend in offshore sportfishing, known for his relentless drive, sharp instincts, and innovative approach to the game. He began his career running an outboard program, chasing king mackerel and learning the ocean through long days, early mornings, and hard-earned experience.

As his career evolved, Sandy didn’t follow trends, he set them. He went on to pioneer the now-famous “two-man program” aboard his sportfish in the Bahamas, proving that precision, preparation, and chemistry could outperform larger crews. His lean, efficient style reshaped how many anglers approach teamwork and strategy.

Over decades on the water, Sandy has become known not just for his catches but for his leadership, adaptability, and lasting influence on the sport.

In this episode, we dive into Sandy’s journey, from the early grind to building one of the most respected programs in sportfishing, and explore what separates good fishermen from great ones.

If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Visit gemlux.com for more content, gear, and updates. And don’t forget to follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and X for exclusive clips and behind-the-scenes content.