This is it. The final episode (side 1) of The Get a Grip on Lighting Podcast. Michael and Greg reflect on the past 8 years and 400+ episodes.

Sponsor: Keystone, www.keystonetech.com

Building the Boat While the Water is Rising with Scott Wachter [Pat: this is the new title changed from the live stream]

In this second-to-final episode of Get a Grip on Lighting, hosts Michael and Greg sit down with Scott Wachter — the mind behind the Lighting Industry News Brief and a key player in countless NAILD projects since 2019.

✨ Highlights:
Scott reflects on his journey from theater kid to the lighting industry’s go-to reporter.
Behind-the-scenes stories: live stream chaos, hilarious committee misfires, and the infamous “gun case in Vegas.”
The art of writing quirky titles (“TVs Blossom” explained!) and why reporting beats opinion-driven journalism.
Favorite wins, surprising failures, and the joy of seeing the News Brief chart alongside CNN and Bloomberg.
Scott’s next chapter: taking over Restoring Darkness and pushing it to new heights.

🔥 Why watch?
This episode is part farewell, part celebration — honoring Scott as the “George Harrison” of the Get a Grip band.

Connect with Scott:
https://naild.org/lighting-industry-news-brief/
https://restoringdarkness.com/darkness-news-update/
linkedin.com/in/scott-wachter-5a3109113

Sponsor: Satco, satco.com

In this episode, Michael and Greg sit down with Devin Wall, one of the inventive forces behind Louvers International, to unpack the infamous DLC report and the future of lighting standards.

🔥 Highlights:

• The history of industry pushback against DLC certifications (from mafia skits to cease-and-desist letters).
• Devin’s hands-on approach: walking the factory floor, designing real solutions, and tackling heritage lighting retrofits.
• Why many manufacturers see DLC as interference rather than innovation.
• The bigger picture: global standards, sustainability, interoperability, and whether energy efficiency certifications are even relevant anymore.
• Anecdotes from the trenches—cheap imports, failing drivers, and the need for real accountability in lighting.

⚡ This isn’t just another lighting chat—it’s a candid, fiery look at how the industry can move forward with creativity, collaboration, and common sense.

👉 Watch now to hear why Devin Wall might just be the mad scientist lighting needs.

Connect with Devin:

www.louversintl.com

Instagram - @Louversintl

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/louversinternational

Twitter - @louversintl

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/800LifesOk

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-wall-22856a15/

Sponsor: Louvers International, louversintl.com, @louversintl

In this, episode 3 of the finale series of Get a Grip on Lighting, Michael Colligan and Greg Ehrich sit down with Mark Baker of the Soft Lights Foundation to trace the journey from the early days of Starving for Darkness to the evolution of Restoring Darkness.

They revisit how the pandemic sparked the industry’s first serious conversations about dark skies, Jane Slade’s passionate leadership, and the challenges of keeping the movement alive. Mark Baker shares his personal story, the health impacts tied to LED lighting, and why glare and light pollution remain urgent issues for communities everywhere.

👉 From industry skepticism to advocacy, this episode highlights the fight to recognize light pollution as a true environmental and public health problem—and the role podcasts played in building awareness.

Connect with Mark:

www.softlights.org

Facebook:

Soft Lights Foundation - https://www.facebook.com/groups/softlights.org

Ban Blinding LEDs - https://www.facebook.com/groups/BanBlindingLEDs

Petition to Ban Blinding Headlights: https://www.change.org/p/u-s-dot-ban-blinding-headlights-and-save-lives

Sponsor: Keystone, keystonetech.com

In this episode, hosts Michael and Greg welcome Webster Marsh and Ron Kuszmar from the Lighting Controls Podcast. They reflect on the journey from a chance conversation in late 2021 to building a thriving show with over 120 episodes.

✨ Key Highlights:

• How Webster and Ron went from guest and co-host to paid podcasters.
• The evolution of lighting controls as a serious industry conversation.
• Education, collaboration, and breaking down silos across the lighting world.
• The challenges of proprietary systems, utilities’ influence, and the boom–bust cycle of lighting tech.

This episode captures the growth of a podcast that helped reshape how the industry talks about controls—turning closed-door chatter into open, collaborative dialogue.

Connect with Webster Marsh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/c-webster-marsh/

Connect with Ron Kuszmar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-kuszmar-7a8a3538/

Sponsor: Barron Lighting Group, barronltg.com

Michael and Greg sit down with Scott Griffin to reflect on the journey of creating and producing thousands of podcast episodes.

Sponsor: Halco Lighting, halcolighting.com

Adam Chetakian, Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer at Apprime Lighting, has over 30 years in the game. He, Michael and Greg address the dirty secret behind the LED retrofit world: fixtures that die young and end up in landfills. Adam’s here to flip the script with a patented, tool-less, replaceable light engine that saves time, money, and the planet 🌍.

💡 Topics covered:

• Why LED “efficiency” betrayed fixture longevity
• The rise of modular, sustainable lighting solutions
• How Apprime’s tech slashes install time from 10 minutes to 25 seconds
• The future of circular economy in lighting
• Why contractors need to “own the fixture location” again

🎯 Whether you're an ESCO, distributor, or sustainability engineer, this episode is your blueprint for reclaiming control and cutting waste. Plus, some spicy takes on Europe’s TM66 rating.

👉 Watch now and join the movement to make lighting smarter, longer-lasting, and landfill-free.

#LightingRevolution #CircularEconomy #LEDRetrofit #Sustainability #GripLockSystems #GetAGripOnLighting #APPRIMELighting #DLCReform #LightingIndustry

Connect with Adam:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/apprime-lighting

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@apprimelighting

Apprime Lighting: www.apprimelighting.com

Sponsor: Griplock Systems, griplocksytems.com

Michael Colligan and Greg Ehrich declare a full-blown crisis in the lighting industry’s “right to repair.” From inaccessible drivers screwed into joists to obsolete Cat5 control systems and $300 can lights that can't be fixed, the guys expose the absurdity of modern lighting design. Real-world stories from schools, churches, and health clubs reveal how LED upgrades have turned into long-term liabilities.

💡 Topics Covered:

• Why customers are buying double fixtures just to stock backups
• The nightmare of replacing drivers buried in ceilings
• The rise and fall of Cat5-based lighting controls
• How “lighting as a service” might actually make sense now
• The emotional toll of unrepairable lighting systems

"You literally have to cut the ceiling out to fix the light." — Michael Colligan

Sponsor: Barron Lighting Group, barronltg.com