JP, a third-generation Joseph Paul from “the other Dallas” (Pennsylvania), spent over a decade working on USAID projects across Africa and beyond—from Nigeria to Bangladesh, South Africa to Tanzania. From combating childhood malnutrition to strengthening civil society, he witnessed firsthand how American development work builds lasting partnerships worldwide.

Then came the midnight news alert that changed everything.

In this raw and insightful conversation, JP explains why he got into international development not just to help people, but as an exercise in American soft power—and why the sudden dismantling of USAID represents what he calls “a stupid self-own” for U.S. interests. He walks us through the real-world consequences: how Chinese ambassadors are knocking on doors where USAID just walked away, why the “From the American People” branding mattered so much, and what it means when an administration’s goal is to “traumatize” its own workforce.

This episode tackles the intersection of patriotism and service, the difference between venial and mortal sins in policy-making, and why staying resilient matters more than ever. Whether you’re familiar with international development or just learning why it matters, JP’s perspective offers a compelling look at what’s at stake when America abandons its soft power.

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In the Season Two premiere of Global Development Interrupted, host Leah Petit is joined by Chris Wurst, a former Foreign Service Officer with the U.S. Department of State and the creator and host of the podcast SoftPower/Ful Stories. Chris spent more than two decades working in public diplomacy and communications, where he helped bridge the gap between data and lived experience by telling the human stories behind American engagement abroad.

That perspective gave him a firsthand view of how the three Ds of diplomacy, development, and defense once worked together in practice. He reflects on moments when agencies brought distinct but complementary expertise to the table, including the response to the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami and, during the response to the 2005 Pakistan earthquake, when U.S. agencies were working side by side on the ground. These experiences shaped his understanding of how coordination across institutions helped stabilize communities, save lives, and contribute to a safer world for everyone.

Today, that system looks very different. With USAID dismantled and the State Department significantly weakened, this conversation offers a clear-eyed look at what has been lost, why those institutions mattered, and what their absence means for both global stability and the United States. Chris and Leah explore why storytelling is essential in moments of disruption, how soft power operates beyond official policy, and why communication and public understanding are central to rebuilding trust and engagement.

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In our last episode, Ben Eveslage described what happened when U.S. global assistance suddenly stopped. Programs froze, but local partners kept showing up. Community organizations, peer educators, community volunteers, and community health workers were the ones who held things together when everything else fell away.

This episode with Mananza Koné, USAID Côte d’Ivoire’s first Localization Officer, helps explain why that was possible. Known as “Mama Localization,” she spent years strengthening the systems, trust, and leadership that helped local organizations in Côte d’Ivoire expand their programs and deepen their impact as they partnered with USAID. Her work shows what it looks like when investments are made not just in projects, but in people and the systems they carry.

When the funding ended, it was those community networks that kept care moving. The referral system, made up of volunteers and community health workers who made sure people got to the clinic, received medication, kept appointments, and stayed in care, continued on even with little to no pay or support. It is exactly the kind of community-driven structure localization was meant to reinforce and one that proved its strength when everything else fell apart.

Listening to Ben and Mananza together shows both sides of this moment. Ben saw the resilience of local partners in real time. Mananza helped build the foundation that made that resilience possible. Her message is clear. The talent, systems, and networks built over decades still exist. They are not a waste, and now is the time to listen to communities, invest in them, and invest in the systems that have proven to endure.

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