In Acts, Barnabas does something simple but decisive: he brings Saul to the apostles. Before Paul becomes the missionary we know, someone was willing to stand beside him, believe in him, and connect him to the body of Christ. That quiet act of trust helped shape the advance of the gospel.

In this episode, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave consider what it means to live like that in an ordinary church. Not networking for advantage. Not building relationships for leverage. But drawing near to people because we genuinely care—and then using those relationships to connect them to Jesus.

They talk about trust that takes time to build and seconds to lose. About the cost of hospitality and the power of simple presence. About generosity that is not financial strategy but kingdom investment. About remembering names, following up on burdens, refusing to give up on a John Mark when others are ready to move on. About resisting a culture—and even algorithms—that train us to live in curated isolation.

The call is clear: stop promoting yourself and start promoting others. Love God first. Love people second. Look around the room and ask why God has placed these particular people together. Then act intentionally. Introduce. Encourage. Invest. Pray.

00:00 Embodying Barnabas: A Model for Today

17:36 Intentional Relationships: The Key to Connection

20:13 Investing in People: A Kingdom Perspective

23:08 The Role of Encouragement in Community

25:49 Living Out Biblical Principles in Modern Life

When should Christians use apologetics—and when should they avoid it?

In this episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave dive into what biblical apologetics really is—and why most believers misunderstand it.

Rather than treating apologetics as academic debate or “mental gymnastics,” Jeff reframes it as something every Christian is called to do: answer sincere questions with Scripture, gentleness, and hope—while keeping the gospel central.

Using 1 Peter 3:15 as the foundation, this conversation explores how apologetics fits naturally into relational evangelism and discipleship—not as the starting point, but as a response to honest objections that arise when the gospel is clearly presented.

• When apologetics is helpful—and when it actually gets in the way
• Why most objections to the gospel are sincere, even when they sound hostile
• What biblical apologetics is (and what it is not)
• Why knowing the Word of God matters more than knowing every argument
• How Scripture—not logic alone—“converts the soul”
• Why apologetics should always be hopeful, gentle, and respectful
• How the Holy Spirit works when we use God’s Word
• Why apologetics is for every Christian, not just debaters or scholars

Jeff also gives a clear, memorable definition of biblical apologetics and shows how Scripture itself provides examples of believers defending the faith—without ever losing sight of the gospel.

If you’ve ever thought, “Apologetics isn’t for me,” this episode will change the way you see defending the faith—and give you confidence to do it in a way that honors Christ and genuinely helps people.

In this episode of Gospel Talks, hosts George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave discuss the importance of relational evangelism and the balance between living out the gospel and verbally proclaiming it. They emphasize that while lifestyle evangelism is crucial, it is not sufficient on its own; words are necessary to communicate the gospel effectively. The conversation explores practical ways to connect with people, the significance of prayer, and the need to overcome selfishness in sharing faith. Ultimately, they call listeners to action, encouraging them to share the treasure of Christ with others.

Takeaways

• The gospel should be visible long before it's verbal.
• Effective ministry comes from knowing Christ intimately.
• Lifestyle evangelism is not enough; words are necessary.
• Connecting with people is the first step in evangelism.
• Prayer in Jesus' name is crucial for impactful evangelism.
• Living the gospel provides a platform for proclamation.
• We must take opportunities to share the gospel.
• Selfishness can hinder our evangelistic efforts.
• The power of the gospel lies in both action and words.
• Faith that never speaks isn't faithful.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Relational Evangelism

03:04 The Role of Words in Evangelism

05:56 Lifestyle Evangelism vs. Proclamation

08:50 Connecting with People in Daily Life

11:47 The Importance of Prayer in Evangelism

14:59 Living the Gospel vs. Proclaiming the Gospel

17:58 The Necessity of Speaking the Gospel

20:55 Overcoming Selfishness in Evangelism

24:05 The Power of Living a Gospel-Centered Life

26:45 The Balance of Action and Words in Evangelism

30:04 Conclusion and Call to Action

Keywords

evangelism, discipleship, relational evangelism, lifestyle evangelism, gospel, ministry, faith, prayer, connecting with people, speaking the gospel