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Grown-Up Church Kids

Grown-Up Church Kids

Written by: Dwan Hill
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Grown-Up Church Kids is a podcast for anyone who grew up in church and is still figuring out what to do with it.

Hosted by Dwan Hill and Shama Mrema, the show blends honest conversation, humor, music, and storytelling as they unpack faith, culture, and the realities of growing up in and around the church. From choir stands to church politics, from deep belief to hard questions, nothing is off limits.

It’s real, it’s reflective, and it’s for anyone who’s ever asked:

What do I keep, what do I let go of, and where is God in all of it now?

© 2026 Grown-Up Church Kids
Christianity Ministry & Evangelism Spirituality
Episodes
  • Gracie Binion Wrote “Goodbye Yesterday,” Heard God’s Voice, and Talks Fake Prophecy
    May 24 2026

    Gracie Binion sits down with Dwan and Shama to talk about writing “Goodbye Yesterday,” hearing the audible voice of God, navigating fake prophecy, and what it actually looks like to release secular music as a worship leader. She opens up about growing up in a ministry family, leaving a toxic relationship, receiving prophetic words at 13 that did not make sense until she got married, and why she still believes God speaks even when the prophetic movement has been misused. Grown Up Church Kids is where Sunday morning meets real life.


    ABOUT THE SHOW:

    Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.


    There are more of us than you think.


    🔔 Subscribe on YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g


    🎧 Listen on Audio

    https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662


    📚 Resources

    https://amzn.to/3PISqfX

    FOLLOW


    More from Dwan Hill

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill

    Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/


    More from Shama Mrema

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz

    Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/


    More from Grown-Up Church Kids

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/


    Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/


    More from The Choir Room

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en

    Website: https://www.choirisback.com/


    CREDITS:

    Director & Editor: Kyle Whittaker

    Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)

    Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis

    Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte

    Video: Seth Scruggs

    Video, Photo & Social: Jordan Rubino

    Management: Annie Cunningham


    #grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #graciebinion #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid


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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • What If God Doesn’t Heal Me?
    May 17 2026

    Trip Lee was 19 years old when he was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. He has never fully recovered. And in that body he has pastored churches, raised a family, and written some of the most worshipful music in Christian hip hop. In this episode of Grown Up Church Kids, Dwan sits down with Trip to talk about what it costs to follow Jesus when your body won’t cooperate, what it felt like to grow up caught between two cultures, and what he believes about a God who hasn’t said yes yet. His new album For Your Glory is out now. This conversation will stay with you.


    ABOUT THE SHOW:

    Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.


    There are more of us than you think.


    🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)

    https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/


    🔔 Subscribe on YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g


    🎧 Listen on Audio

    https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662


    📚 Resources

    https://amzn.to/3PISqfX

    FOLLOW


    More from Dwan Hill

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill

    Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/


    More from Shama Mrema

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz

    Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/


    More from Grown-Up Church Kids

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/


    Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/


    More from The Choir Room

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en

    Website: https://www.choirisback.com/


    CREDITS:

    Director & Editor: Kyle Whittaker

    Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)

    Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis

    Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte

    Video: Seth Scruggs

    Video, Photo & Social: Jordan Rubino

    Management: Annie Cunningham


    #grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #triplee #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid


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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • DOE Palmer: No Disney, No Dating, New Baby, and a Grammy
    May 10 2026

    Grammy-winning Christian artist DOE joins Grown Up Church Kids for a hilarious and honest conversation about growing up in church, and the rules a lot of church kids remember: no kissing, no Disney, no scary movies, no dating, and sometimes… no pants. From Pentecostal holiness culture and COGIC roots to Pokémon panic, purity culture, R-rated movies, dating, parenting, and spiritual conviction, this episode asks what protection was, what was fear, and what still matters now.


    DOE also shares how her bilingual church upbringing shaped her worship, how her family prayer times formed her songwriting, and what motherhood is teaching her about raising kids without trying to fix herself through them. If you grew up in church and are still sorting through the beauty, the baggage, and the funny rules that shaped you, this one is for you.




    ABOUT THE SHOW:

    Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.


    There are more of us than you think.


    🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)

    https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/


    🔔 Subscribe on YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g


    🎧 Listen on Audio

    https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662


    📚 Resources

    https://amzn.to/3PISqfX

    FOLLOW


    00:00 No Power Rangers in Church

    01:29 Welcome to Grown Up Church Kids

    02:21 Movies Church Kids Couldn’t Watch

    08:58 Meet DOE

    10:28 DOE’s COGIC Roots

    14:32 Growing Up in a Bilingual Church

    20:16 Multicultural Worship & Israel Houghton

    25:57 Bible Games & Sword Drills

    31:44 DOE on R-Rated Movies

    32:45 “Demon in My Pocket”

    35:37 Parenting, Pokémon & Conviction

    39:31 Aladdin, Genies & Spiritual Sensitivity

    42:47 Christian Content We Can Trust

    45:53 Scary Movies & Fear

    50:03 Dating as a Church Kid

    53:50 Purity Culture and Marriage

    59:09 The Testimony of Protection

    1:04:47 Church Kids at House Parties

    1:08:52 DOE’s Musical Influences

    1:13:02 Songs Born in Prayer

    1:14:19 Meet Baby Shiloh

    1:15:44 Parenting Without Projecting

    1:18:48 Final Thoughts & Songs


    More from Dwan Hill

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill

    Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/


    More from Shama Mrema

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz

    Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/


    More from Grown-Up Church Kids

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/


    Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/


    More from The Choir Room

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en

    Website: https://www.choirisback.com/


    CREDITS:

    Director & Editor: Kyle Whittaker

    Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)

    Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis

    Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte

    Video: Seth Scruggs

    Video, Photo & Social: Jordan Rubino

    Management: Annie Cunningham


    #grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #doe #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid


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    1 hr and 20 mins
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