This episode Brent talks to retired Lighting designer/director David Hamilton. He worked early in his career as a tech with Neil Young-Buffalo Springfield-CS&N-Keith Urban-Sammy Hagar-Kenny Rogers. Then in the position of Designer or Director with Melissa Etheredge-Wynonna-Olivia Newton-John-Ryan Adams-Collective Soul-Fuel-The Mavericks-Tokyo Hotel-Steve Vai-Montgomery Gentry-Sara Evans-DeanaCarter-Trisha Yearwood-Patty Loveless-Pam Tillis & Kathy Mattea.

Brent talks to David about growing up in Abilene Texas as an Air Force kid. Being an artist at a young age. Feeling like a square peg in a round hole. First paying gig at the airman’s club. Gigging around Texas in the 70’s and early 80’s as a musician. Following a woman to Nashville for a month or two and never leaving. Not necessarily on purpose ending up as a lighting guy. Hitting bottom and finding recovery all while navigating life as a touring professional. Doing the work of facing the long ignored deeper seeded issues and trauma even later in life.. and much more! Great conversation with a solid human. Thanks for listening!

This episode Brent talks with 38 year veteran FOH engineer Jon (JO) Ostrin. He has mixed for TOTO-Oingo Boingo-Pat Benatar-Van Halen-Ringo Starr-Brian Setzer-Jason Bonham-Boz Skaggs and John Legend just to name a few. Conversation covers... Growing up in the golden age of arena rock in LA. His path to landing behind the console. Landing his first opportunities to mix. Faking it till you make it. Getting the call from Eddie Van Halen and then passing the test. Continuing to be emotionally connected to the music even as a jaded old roadie. Best shows/worst shows. Gambling addiction, Fitting recovery into touring life. Starting Roadies in Recovery and much more.

In this second half of a conversation with Mark, he and Brent talk about I love Lucy, ignoring the noise, being old dads of toddlers, "making it", worst gig ever, building a log cabin on mars, having curiosity about others humanity, Lemmy, living the deleted scenes and much more.