Episodes

  • The Girls Episode! Keeping Girls in the Game with Morgan Schill
    Oct 16 2026

    What does it really mean to be a great sports mom—and how can we help our kids grow without getting caught up in the pressure to win? Luke and Jean sit down with former college volleyball player, coach, and Positive Play Project founder Morgan Schill to talk about the challenges of navigating youth sports today. From an intense third-grade basketball game that got a little too serious to the difference between holding kids to high standards and putting too much pressure on them, Morgan shares why competition and fun don’t have to be at odds. She also challenges parents to get intentional about what they want their kids to gain from sports, beyond wins, losses, and playing time.

    Morgan introduces the idea of “letting them carry the bag”—giving kids age-appropriate responsibility so they can develop accountability, confidence, and resilience instead of having parents step in to solve every problem. The conversation also explores why more women in coaching and sports leadership can make a meaningful difference, especially in creating supportive environments where girls feel understood and want to keep playing. Because youth sports are about so much more than the scoreboard; they’re an opportunity to build character, strengthen relationships, and develop life skills that last long after the final whistle.

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    35 mins
  • 10 Tryout Intangibles
    Oct 2 2026

    What actually gives an athlete an edge at tryouts? Luke and Jean break down ten “tryout intangibles” that can make a difference when the competition gets tough—from communicating and listening to showing confidence, responding well to mistakes, playing defense, and being the teammate every coach wants on the court or field. They unpack why the little things matter, how coaches notice attitude and effort, and why a kid who hustles, encourages teammates, and bounces back after a mistake may stand out just as much as the kid with the biggest highlight reel.

    The conversation also goes beyond tryout day, challenging parents to think about the character and habits they’re helping their athletes build long before they walk into the gym. From developing a skill set without specializing too early to learning toughness, sportsmanship, and respect for coaches, Luke and Jean explore how these lessons can shape kids both in sports and in life. Because sometimes getting an edge isn’t about being the most talented player in the room—it’s about being the kind of person and teammate coaches can trust.

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    34 mins
  • The Dream was MLS. The Journey was God // FC Dallas' Slade Starnes
    Sep 18 2026

    What happens when the dream you’ve chased your whole life actually comes true? Luke and Jean sit down with FC Dallas’ Slade Starnes to talk about the winding road from a childhood dream to the professional level—and the injuries, sacrifices, setbacks, and faith that shaped him along the way. Slade shares what it was like to lose an entire year to injury, leave behind longtime friends to pursue the next level, and wonder whether he even belonged among the best. But as the conversation unfolds, the bigger question becomes: What happens when your sport becomes your identity? Slade opens up about learning that talent and hard work can only take you so far, and how his faith began to reshape the way he approached competition, pressure, and success.

    And then comes the full-circle moment every young athlete dreams about: FC Dallas makes the call. Slade shares what it was like to finally sign with the club he had dreamed about since childhood, while also reflecting on the deeper lessons that got him there—playing for an “audience of one,” building accountability, pursuing excellence without being defined by the outcome, and finding something bigger than the scoreboard. He also shares how his experiences with his friend Ivan led them to start iDream, which helps young athletes pursue their goals while growing in confidence, identity, and leadership. At the heart of Slade’s story is a reminder that the biggest win may have very little to do with what happens on the scoreboard.

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    43 mins
  • Club Sports Playbook: Don't Choose a Soccer Club Until You Hear This // Jay Dane
    Jul 24 2026

    What does it actually take to develop great soccer players in the United States? In this episode of the Heaven or Heisman Podcast, Luke and Jean sit down with veteran coach Jay Dane, whose experience spans both professional academies and youth soccer. Together, they unpack the ongoing debate around America's youth soccer system, from pay-to-play and coaching quality to the cultural differences that shape player development around the world.

    Jay shares why individual development should always come before team success, explaining how creativity, unstructured play, and mastering the fundamentals build confident, skilled athletes. The conversation explores why pickup games and playful competition are often more valuable than highly structured training, how parents can encourage growth at home, and why the best coaches create safe environments where mistakes become opportunities to learn.

    Whether you're choosing a soccer club for your child or simply looking to foster a lifelong love of the game, this episode offers practical guidance for parents navigating youth sports. From evaluating coaches over club brands to encouraging more touches on the ball outside of practice, you'll walk away with a clearer picture of what truly helps young athletes develop both on and off the field..

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    44 mins
  • Club Sports Playbook: Is My Child Ready for Club Sports? // Jonathan Alexander
    Jul 10 2026

    Making the jump from rec sports to club can feel overwhelming for parents. Jonathan "Coach Al" Alexander, founder of JAB Hoops, joins the show to discuss how to know when a child is truly ready for club sports and why the decision should be based on development, not just points scored or wins.

    We explore together what coaches look for during tryouts, the value of quality practices over game results, and the importance of choosing a program with the right coaching culture. We also shares practical advice on helping young athletes find the right level of competition while continuing to grow their skills and confidence.

    Drawing from nearly two decades of coaching and raising seven children, Coach Al offers wisdom on avoiding common parenting pitfalls, fostering a love for the game, and creating an environment where young athletes can thrive for the long haul. Whether you're considering club sports for the first time or evaluating your child's current program, this conversation provides a thoughtful roadmap for the journey.

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    46 mins
  • Jean Checks In from Wimbledon: What Happens Behind the Scenes
    Jun 26 2026

    In this special episode of Heaven or Heisman, co-host and professional tennis coach Jean Anderson joins the show live from London as he prepares to coach at Wimbledon. Jean gives listeners a behind-the-scenes look at one of the sport's most iconic tournaments, sharing what makes Wimbledon so unique and what fans don't get to see on television—from practice schedules and player routines to the incredible organization that supports the world's best athletes.

    Jean also unpacks the habits and mindset that separate elite competitors from the rest. He discusses the importance of discipline, preparation, recovery, and mental focus while offering a firsthand look at the role of a coach during a Grand Slam. Whether you're a tennis fan, an athlete, or simply curious about what excellence requires, this conversation provides a fascinating glimpse into life at the highest level of sport.

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    28 mins
  • Club Sports Playbook: Rec, Select, Club - What Does It All Mean?
    Jun 12 2026

    In this episode of Heaven or Heisman, we kick off a new series exploring the world of club sports and the challenges families face as they navigate increasingly competitive athletic environments. We begin by tackling one of the most common questions parents ask: how do you know what level of competition is right for your child? From recreational leagues to select teams and full-time club sports, we break down the differences in commitment, cost, coaching, competition, and family impact, helping parents better understand the landscape of youth athletics.

    Let's challenge the assumption that higher levels of competition automatically lead to better development. Instead, we encourage families to consider their child's skill level, desire, emotional maturity, and the overall health of the family when making decisions. As the first installment in the new club sports series, this episode offers practical guidance, thoughtful questions, and a balanced perspective to help parents choose a path that supports long-term growth, aligns with their values, and allows sports to remain a positive part of family life.

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    43 mins
  • What Youth Sports Families Can Learn from the Apostle Paul // Timothy Ateek
    May 29 2026

    In this episode, we welcome back Timothy Ateek for a conversation about what youth sports families can learn from the life of the Apostle Paul. Together, we unpack how identity, hardship, mentorship, and faith all intersect in the world of athletics and parenting. Timothy shares how Paul’s life modeled perseverance, humility, and purpose long before becoming the influential leader most people remember, reminding us that God often shapes people through seasons of obscurity, disappointment, and hardship before elevating them. We also discuss the temptation for parents to rescue kids too quickly, the pressure athletes feel to tie their worth to performance, and why building an identity rooted in Christ matters far more than wins, rankings, or playing time.

    Throughout the conversation, we continually come back to the idea that youth sports are more than games and trophies—they are mission fields. Whether it’s encouraging teammates, mentoring younger athletes, handling pressure with grace, or building relationships in the stands, every moment becomes an opportunity to reflect Jesus. This episode is both practical and encouraging for parents and athletes who want to compete with purpose, lead with humility, and remember what matters most long after the scoreboard is forgotten.

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    43 mins