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I Know I Belong When...

I Know I Belong When...

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Bold voices. Curious stories. Authentic Impact.
What does it really mean to belong?
Not just to be invited... To be seen. Heard. Needed.

"I Know I Belong When…" is more than a podcast; it’s a movement. A mirror. A megaphone. It’s where raw truth meets radical hope.

Each episode brings you unfiltered conversations with people who’ve wrestled with the question of belonging in the spaces that shape our lives: workplaces, schools, communities, and digital worlds. From the boardroom to the breakroom, from the sidewalks to our living rooms, our guests share the exact moment they knew they were in, and the moments they knew they weren’t.
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This is not about feel-good soundbites. It’s about radical accountability.

We explore:
~ Where equity is the foundation, not a divider.
~ The steps it takes to build diverse cultures, not only to survive, though to prosper.
~ Ensure inclusion is not just a checkbox; it is a commitment.
~ Where accessibility is not an afterthought, but the amplification to thrive.
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At the heart of our conversation is the Belonging Formula:

"Belonging = (Inclusion × (Diversity + Equity)) ^ Accessibility."

It’s not just math; it’s a mindset. A blueprint. A challenge to every leader, builder, and changemaker: Are you creating spaces where every identity is not only welcomed, however, is valued and respected?
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Here’s how we do it:

[ We Say Names ]
Names are not nicknames. They carry legacy, identity, and power. Inspired by #AlwaysChristopher #NeverChris, we explore how honoring someone’s name is the first act of belonging.

[ The Moment of Belonging ]
A defining story. A turning point. The moment our guest knew: I belong here. We unpack how that moment shaped their confidence, creativity, and connection.

[ Navigating Non-Belonging ]
We don’t shy away from the hard stuff. Guests share what it felt like to be excluded, erased, or underestimated, and how they reclaimed their space and voice.

[ Sustaining Belonging ]
What does it take to keep that feeling alive? We explore the systems, rituals, and leadership practices that make belonging a daily reality, not a one-time event.
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Why it matters:

This podcast is for anyone who’s ever asked: Do I really belong here?
And for every leader who’s ready to answer: Yes, and here’s how we’ll prove it.

Whether you’re building inclusive teams, designing accessible tech, or rethinking your own role in equity work, these stories will challenge you to show up differently. To lead with intention. To listen with humility. To act with courage.

Because belonging isn’t a destination, it’s a practice. And it starts with listening.

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Episodes
  • The authentic leader asks 'Is this it?': Choosing heart over armor with Katherine Dudtschak
    Jun 1 2026

    "What does authentic leadership look like when the person in the corner office decides that the boldest move available is telling the truth about who she is? In this episode of I Know I Belong When, host Christopher Bylone sits down with Katherine Dudtschak, former president and CEO of Home Equity Bank and former executive vice president at RBC, to explore what happens when more than thirty years of elite corporate performance meet a choice to integrate rather than fragment.

    Katherine is the creator of the Sincerely framework and a conscious leadership advisor who guides executives and founders from survival-based identity to essence-led leadership. She serves the leader who has the title, the resume, the followers, and is still quietly asking, "Is this it?"

    In this conversation, Katherine walks listeners through the moment she publicly came out as a woman in front of 80,000 colleagues while still in executive leadership, and what that decision unlocked for her, the people around her, and the culture she helped shape. She speaks plainly about command-and-control giving way to heart-centered leadership, vulnerability as strategic power, and why an inclusive culture is built from the inside of the leader outward.

    This is a master class in authentic leadership, workplace belonging, and the cost of leading from armor rather than essence.

    Must-hear insights and key moments

    • Why heart-centered leadership creates psychological safety that policies alone cannot deliver
    • The Sincerely framework explained: holding space for human stories so others find language for their own becoming
    • How vulnerability operates as a strategic asset for senior leaders, and what shifted when employees began trusting Katherine with their stories
    • The three layers of identity Katherine names: essential self, physical and inherited self, and lived experience self
    • Why the future of work favors regenerative leaders over performative ones, and what that means for building belonging in remote and hybrid teams
    • The five points Katherine wants every executive quietly fragmenting in a corner office to hear before their next decision
    • What it takes to bring your whole self to work, and why belonging to yourself first is the foundation for every other room you enter


    Katherine's standout quotes

    • "I'm a human being. I'm a human being first and foremost."
    • "Opening your heart and being vulnerable is a gift. It's not a weakness."
    • "It is moving forward in the face of profound, crippling fear because you're trying to be true to something deep within you."
    • "No human journey to wholeness happens in thirty seconds or thirty minutes or thirty days."
    • "There's a better world available to us. One that is truly inclusive from a place of kindness and curiosity."
    • "The best is yet to come."
    • "I know I belong when I find self-love within me."

    Why this episode matters
    This conversation gives leaders practical language for belonging in the workplace at a moment when teams are tired of performance and ready for presence. Katherine names the cost of fragmentation, the power of vulnerability, and the difference between inclusive culture as policy and inclusive culture as practice. For anyone navigating belonging vs inclusion, this is a first-person blueprint grounded in real executive experience.

    Who should listen
    CEOs and senior leaders are asking whether the title is enough. HR and people experience practitioners building strategic inclusion programs and seeking stories that land beyond the slide deck. DEI consultants, founders, and team managers are learning how to create a sense of belonging at work. Coaches and conscious leadership advisors are developing their own frameworks. If you are leading a company, a team, or yourself through a season asking more of you than you thought you had, this one is for you."

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    https://www.iknowibelongwhen.com/about-the-show

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    31 mins
  • Everyday Bias, rewritten: AI, attention, and the next generation with Jake Ross
    May 25 2026

    Last week, you met the father. This week, meet the son who did not just inherit a mission. He built his own lane inside of it.

    In this episode of I Know I Belong When, Christopher sits down with Jake Ross, founder and CEO of Belong Together, banjo player, former COO of an AI startup, and co-author of the second edition of Everyday Bias with his father, Howard J. Ross. Jake holds a bachelor's degree from UC Berkeley in interdisciplinary studies, a master's in applied positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, and a thesis called Building Belonging that reads more like a mission statement than an academic paper.

    In part two of this father-and-son series, Jake brings the next-generation vantage point. His chapters in the new edition of Everyday Bias take on what most belonging conversations still avoid: the attention economy, the algorithms that decide what we see, and the emotional relationships people are quietly forming with artificial intelligence. Jake describes it all honestly, as someone who has sat on both sides of the question.

    Jake also opens up about the recovery community that first showed him what belonging feels like when you cannot earn it, and the friends who see him so completely that his identity stays steady in any room.

    If last week's conversation offered a half-century of perspective, this one offers the map forward.

    Must-hear insights and key moments:

    • How a recovery community in California taught Jake what a real sense of belonging at work and in life actually feels like
    • Why the death of the public third place matters more now than it did when Robert Putnam first wrote about it
    • What the attention economy is costing us, and how algorithms quietly engineer outrage on every side of the political spectrum
    • The hidden cost of non-belonging inside tech teams, and why isolated builders tend to create isolating systems
    • Jake's father-to-colleague moment from his side of the table, and why it changed how he shows up professionally
    • Why the Lego collection, the banjo, and the fire dancing are not side quests; they are the practice of authentic leadership in full expression


    Jake's standout quotes:

    • "Belonging is not about being good enough to be in a group. It comes when you and those around you decide that you belong, simply because you do."
    • "When the people building those systems are lonely and not connected to their broader self, the influences of that loneliness get baked into the algorithms."
    • "Who we are paints the glasses."
    • "If I can help one person feel like they really matter, that is my life's work in action."
    • "I know I belong when the world around me celebrates my desire to be in full expression."


    Why this episode matters:
    Belonging is not a soft concept, and it is not an HR initiative. It is the infrastructure of how humans show up at work, with each other, and online. Jake offers the next-generation view on what is shifting under our feet: algorithms trained to agree with us, a tech industry building interpersonal products from inside deep isolation, and a culture slowly losing its public third places. His work bridges positive psychology research and practical human-centered innovation. If you lead a remote team, a product team, or an inclusive culture strategy, Jake names what the next five years will actually require.

    Who should listen:
    This episode is for founders and product leaders thinking seriously about bias baked into AI systems, people leaders designing inclusive culture for a hybrid and AI-augmented workplace, DEI practitioners looking for fresh language on belonging versus inclusion, positive psychology students and practitioners, HR and people experience strategists navigating belonging in remote teams, and anyone raising, mentoring, or working alongside the next generation of leaders. If last week Howard gave you the long view, this week Jake gives you the fieldwork.

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    https://www.iknowibelongwhen.com/about-the-show

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    57 mins
  • Everyday Bias, revisited: A father, a son, and the work of honoring humanity with Howard Ross
    May 18 2026

    What if belonging is not a program or slogan, but the daily discipline of honoring humanity even when the cultural winds shift against it?

    In this episode of I Know I Belong When, Christopher sits down with Howard J. Ross, writer, facilitator, meditation teacher, musician, and one of the most influential voices on unconscious bias and belonging alive today. Howard is the author of Everyday Bias and Our Search for Belonging, and he is co-writing the second edition of Everyday Bias with his son, Jake Ross, who joins the show next week in part two of this father-and-son series.

    Howard reflects on the regressive moment the field is facing, the places belonging work has missed the mark, and the patience required to sustain authentic leadership over decades. He shares the story of his grandfather Samuel Bulmash, who escaped the pogroms of Ukraine and helped found the Baltimore NAACP. He revisits the Nancy Neal moment that first taught him what a sense of belonging at work feels like, the day in Jackson, Mississippi, that reshaped how he shows up as a white practitioner, and the father-to-colleague shift with Jake that transformed both their work and relationship.

    If you have been searching for language for belonging, this episode is a masterclass.

    Must-hear insights and key moments

    • Why progress in inclusive culture often moves three steps forward and two steps back
    • What Howard learned from his grandfather about responsibility, legacy, and honoring humanity
    • The Nancy Neil moment that first showed Howard what workplace belonging looks like in practice
    • The day in Jackson, Mississippi, that changed how Howard approaches belonging work
    • Why the next edition of Everyday Bias had to address artificial intelligence, social media, and algorithms
    • How the father-to-colleague pivot with Jake shows strategic inclusion beginning at home

    Howard’s standout quotes

    • “This is going to be a long haul, and it is always going to be three steps forward, two steps back.”
    • “Terrible things can happen, and you have a responsibility to do something about it.”
    • “When we can see the humanity in each other, the difference becomes additive.”
    • “I am not going to relate to you in this project as my son. I am going to relate to you as my colleague.”
    • “Everybody needs a tribe. We have to create that bigger tent if we expect to see the change we are working on.”
    • “I know I belong when I can be fully myself, when I can show up without having to worry that being me is going to exclude me or make my voice not matter.”

    Why this episode matters

    Belonging is the outcome of the disciplined work of honoring humanity. In a moment when inclusive culture work faces increasing backlash, Howard offers perspective grounded in history, cognitive science, and more than fifty years of practice. Whether you are rethinking people experience strategy, navigating belonging in remote teams, or wrestling with belonging versus inclusion, this episode offers language, clarity, and direction.

    Who should listen

    This episode is for HR and people leaders, DEI practitioners, executives, founders, managers of remote and hybrid teams, educators, and storytellers committed to creating belonging at work through authentic leadership and strategic inclusion. If you have ever wondered what it takes to sustain belonging across a lifetime of practice, Howard Ross offers one of the clearest answers you will hear.

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    https://www.iknowibelongwhen.com/about-the-show

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    49 mins
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