In Part 2 of this Time Billionaires conversation, Rebecca continues her discussion with Naomi Midanik, cancer survivor and Founder at Bright Balance Psychotherapy. This episode dives deeper into the misconceptions around workplace burnout and why it's become the "most socially acceptable way to talk about mental health at work."

Naomi clarifies the true definition of burnout - emotional exhaustion, cynicism about work, and reduced effectiveness - and explains the critical test: if rest from work doesn't help your symptoms, it's likely not burnout. The conversation explores how high-achieving professionals often misdiagnose themselves, missing underlying factors like hormonal changes, unprocessed trauma, or other mental health conditions that require different treatment approaches.

The episode also tackles the trap of overthinking decisions and how our brains try to "outthink" anxiety through endless pros-and-cons lists. Naomi shares the story of Rebecca's coaching breakthrough, where 50 minutes of analysis was solved by 15 seconds of intuitive knowing. She introduces practical grounding techniques, including the proper way to do the 5-4-3-2-1 sensory exercise and simple mindfulness practices that don't require meditation.

Timestamps:

• Recap and opening about emotional numbness vs. burnout – 0:00
• The true definition of burnout and the rest test – 2:29
• Understanding depersonalization in workplace context – 4:41
• The coaching story: analysis paralysis vs. intuitive knowing – 4:57
• Why our brains can't outthink anxiety – 6:45
• Breaking the worry and rumination cycles – 7:56
• The importance of self-awareness and body attunement – 8:44
• The 5-4-3-2-1 grounding exercise (done properly) – 9:59
• Mindfulness without meditation: washing hands mindfully – 12:32
• The "notice something new" approach to mindfulness – 13:49

Connect with Naomi:

Bright Balance Psychotherapy: https://www.brightbalancetherapy.com/

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/naomimidanik

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Shout-out to Graham Duncan from East Rock Capital for the "Time Billionaires" concept that inspired our show name - originally shared on The Tim Ferriss Show.

• (00:00:00) - How to Realize Your Time Billionaires
• (00:01:13) - What to Do About Burnout in the Workplace
• (00:09:03) - How to Break a Pattern of Anxiety