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Episode 10 - Coaching in Leadership (feat. Alicia Sanders)

Episode 10 - Coaching in Leadership (feat. Alicia Sanders)

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Most leaders are coaching whether they realize it or not. The question is whether they’re doing it intentionally… or accidentally.

In this episode of Leading Ain’t Easy, Ryan and Erny are joined by Alicia Sanders, a Director of Supply Chain Management in hospital logistics, to break down coaching as a practical leadership skill; especially in high-pressure environments where deadlines don’t stop so “development” can happen.

We talk about the difference between managing vs coaching, why coaching creates real capability (not just compliance), and the hard reality leaders face when someone refuses accountability, including when coaching ends and performance management begins.

If you’re tired of doing the job for your team, this episode is your reminder: coaching is slower in the moment… but faster over time.

What we cover

  • Managing vs coaching: directing tasks vs developing thinking
  • Why coaching isn’t one-size-fits-all
  • Coaching through strengths (and why EQ matters)
  • Mentorship vs coaching, and when leaders must do both
  • Daily huddles/check-ins as a simple, repeatable coaching practice
  • The “cut your losses” question: accountability, engagement, and reality
  • PDCA (Plan–Do–Check–Act) as a coaching framework
  • The coaching pitfall: focusing only on the squeaky wheel and burning out high performers

Key takeaway

Coaching doesn't mean being “nice” or “helpful.” It’ means being effective and creating clarity, building capability, and holding standards without rescuing people.

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What’s the hardest part of coaching people in your environment?

"Leading ain’t easy, but you don’t have to do it alone."

Leading Ain’t Easy is hosted by Ryan Calkins and Erny Epley.

  • Ryan is the founder of Reframe & Rise, a career and leadership coaching practice helping veterans and other professionals realign their work and lead with purpose.
  • Erny runs Bus Pro Network, supporting school transportation leaders across California with training and development.

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