A deeper look at hunger — and why overeating is not a willpower problem.

Episode #240

🎙️ What if the real issue isn't overeating — but over-hunger?

In this episode, Megan Ramos and Dr. Terri Lance are joined by Dr. Jason Fung to unpack the ideas behind The Hunger Code and why focusing on calories alone misses the real drivers of eating behaviour. Together, they explore how hunger is regulated by hormones, how emotional and conditioned hunger influence our choices, and why so many people feel "broken" when the problem was never willpower to begin with. This conversation reframes hunger as a biological and behavioural signal — not a personal failure — and explains why working with your body leads to far more sustainable results than fighting it.

👉 What you'll learn:
• Why overeating is better understood as a problem of over-hunger
• How hormones like insulin, GLP-1, and cortisol influence appetite and satiety
• The difference between homeostatic, hedonic, and conditioned hunger
• Why calorie restriction alone increases hunger and backfires long-term
• How ultra-processed foods drive hunger without creating satiety
• The role of mindset, habits, behaviour, and environment in lasting change

⏱️ Timestamps
00:00 — Hunger beyond willpower: setting the framework
04:45 — Why calorie control fails and hunger escalates
08:05 — Overeating as a problem of over-hunger
12:40 — Insulin's role in hunger and satiety
16:20 — Homeostatic vs hedonic vs conditioned hunger
20:00 — Ultra-processed foods and constant appetite stimulation
26:30 — Social modelling, environment, and learned eating patterns
32:10 — Mindset, habits, and behaviour change
38:45 — Why people feel "broken" when biology is the issue
44:10 — Key takeaways from The Hunger Code
48:30 — Final thoughts and closing reflections

📝 Transcript
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