Chris and Joe invite you into their brand new Quantus podcast studio.

Over steaming cups of tea, they share stories, plans, and the energy that's shaping the next chapter of Quantus.

In this episode, Christopher Smith and Joe Mattia dive into one of their most free-flowing conversations yet — exploring DNA as taboo, nature vs. culture, retribution, rituals, shadow integration, psychedelics, fear of death, propaganda, and the psychology of control.

From the Sydney Sweeney "Good Genes" controversy, to ancient tribal justice systems, to blue lotus dream states, to the Balinese mass-suicide legend — this episode moves through biology, mythology, geopolitics, and consciousness in a single wide-ranging arc.

A philosophical, humorous, and at times intense exploration of what it means to be human in a world where technology, culture, and fear shape behavior more than we realize.

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⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – DNA, taboo & the "Good Genes" controversy
03:00 – Nature, fairness & ancient retribution systems
06:00 – Surgery, anatomy & the reality beneath the skin
08:00 – Tea ceremony, deep steeping & mythological dream plants
11:00 – Blue lotus, archetypes & symbolic language
14:00 – Death, psychedelics & dissolving fear
17:00 – Evolutionary survival, strategies & the AI myth
20:00 – COVID, propaganda & the psychology of control
25:00 – Projection, government trust & collective illusions
30:00 – Initiation rites, ancestors, genealogy & returning to nature