What if your points and miles strategy didn’t just save you money… but made you a better traveler?

In this episode, Genni sits down with Kelsey from Point Sisters to talk about responsible travel, global citizenship, and how points can support more thoughtful tourism—without turning travel into a guilt trip.

You’ll hear how Kelsey and her sister Devan got into points and miles through a FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) mindset, why “being a global citizen” matters now more than ever, and how small, simple choices—like shoulder season travel, nonstop flights, and staying longer in each destination—can completely change your experience.

Plus, Kelsey breaks down why the JAL OneWorld Round-the-World ticket is one of the most powerful redemptions in the game (and why “go slow” is the #1 rule if you want to do it right).

What you’ll learn in this episode

• How Point Sisters went from “points as kids” to full-on optimizers through FIRE
• What “responsible travel” actually means
• Why tourism can create unintended consequences
• How to use points to avoid overtourism: follow the deal + choose less-hyped destinations
• Why slow travel is better for you and the places you visit
• Shoulder season travel tips (better deals, fewer crowds, lower impact)
• The basics of round-the-world awards (and why JAL is so interesting)
• The biggest mindset shift: travel smarter… not just cheaper

Timestamps

• 00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
• 01:10 Meet Kelsey from Point Sisters
• 01:17 The Journey into Points and Miles
• 02:45 Financial Independence and Responsible Travel
• 03:38 Understanding Global Citizenship
• 07:37 Impact of Tourism on Local Cultures
• 18:06 Practical Tips for Responsible Travel
• 23:30 Slow Travel and Its Benefits
• 28:13 Exploring Around the World Tickets
• 29:07 Maximizing JAL Around the World Tickets
• 29:58 Example Itineraries and Cost Analysis
• 31:15 Comparing Points and Cash Costs
• 32:19 Flexibility and Alternatives with JAL
• 33:57 Booking Strategies and Challenges
• 37:43 Award Bookings and Coaching Services
• 41:32 Rapid Fire Travel Tips
• 45:18 Eco-Friendly Travel Hacks
• 47:19 Conclusion and Contact Information

Where to find Kelsi and Devan

• Point Sisters (Instagram): @pointsisters
• Website: pointsisters.com

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