Humor isn’t just a great distraction from work, it helps strengthen how you do hard things. In this episode, Renee Wittemyer, VP of Program Strategy at Pivotal Ventures - founded by Melinda French Gates - shares why inane conversations are an impactful leadership strategy. She discusses how to ease laughter into serious conversations, how living abroad with her grandmother shaped her worldview, and an unexpected meet-cute story that happened in an elephant research camp in Kenya.

Learn more about Pivotal Ventures here: https://www.pivotal.com/

After Hours Recommendations mentioned:

📺The Summer I Turned Pretty

🎙️The Daily

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