In this episode Evie and Axel discuss the hotwife dynamic and how it differs from cuckolding, both in terms of what drives each arrangement and what it means psychologically for the people involved. They draw on their own relationship and their experience as escorts to explain why the same act can feel completely different depending on the energy and intention behind it.

Axel shares how his position on the idea has shifted dramatically over the past five years and what that process actually looked like. Evie reflects on her own conditioning around wanting multiple male partners, and how that complicated her response to something Axel introduced. Together they get into the psychology of permission, what it means to offer versus concede, and why the person who appears to be giving something up often has more power than it looks.

TOPICS

• How the hotwife and cuckold dynamics differ psychologically even when the physical act looks the same
• Why Axel's response to the idea five years ago was categorically different from his response today
• What Evie found surprisingly difficult to accept, despite having no shame about her work as a sex worker
• What Axel means when he describes sharing Evie as an offering rather than a concession
• How cuckolding can serve a therapeutic function rather than simply being a kink
• Why some experiences feel possible in a professional context but not a personal one, and vice versa

QUOTES

• Axel: "Five years ago, I would've been like, not in a million years would I be able to identify with hotwife energy at any level."
• Evie: "I didn't come to you and say, hey babe, I'd really just love some extra dick, please. Could I have some extra dick? It was more like you came to me. Hey babe would you like some extra dick?"
• Evie: "Thanks for the extra dick."
• Axel: "Right now 50% of the listeners are probably thinking you're a cuck, mate. But it's like, no, no, haha.."
• Evie: "I love me a man sandwich. I've been saying that a lot lately."
• Axel: "I don't mind myself a pussy platter either."

ABOUT

Evie Elysian and Axel Meridius are a real-life Melbourne couple who work together as escorts under the name Evie + Axel. Rawdog is their unfiltered take on sex, intimacy, and what they've learned from years in the adult industry.

This podcast contains explicit sexual content and is intended for adult audiences. Discretion is advised for sensitive listeners.

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