In this episode of Land Language, hosts Brit Sastrawidjaya and Bethany Rydmark sit down with nursery owner, author, and plant ecologist Paul Bonine (co-owner of Xera Plants, paleoclimatology background, and longtime horticultural educator). Together, they go deep into the future of regenerative landscaping through native annuals, cover cropping, soil biology, and plant-driven weed management.
Paul brings decades of experience observing Pacific Northwest ecosystems up close—from clay soils that turn to concrete in summer, to the evolutionary role of native annuals, to the quiet intelligence of succession plants like ceanothus, clover, meadowfoam, and clinopodium. This episode reframes how designers and contractors think about weeds, soil, irrigation, and the plants we choose as tools — not just ornament.
This is a foundational conversation for any practitioner seeking to reduce carbon-heavy construction habits, increase biodiversity, and work with the land’s ecological timing instead of fighting it.
Chapters
00:00 Start
01:41 Using Plants as Green Mulch and Weed Management
03:07 Meadowfoam: A Natural Solution for Turf Grass
05:01 Cover Crops and Soil Health
09:47 Prairies vs. Micro Forests for Carbon Sequestration
12:51 Paul Bonine's Background and Early Influences
14:01 Soil Management and Mulching Practices
16:25 Cover Crops for Construction Sites
18:54 The Role of Ceanothus in Soil Health
21:01 Succession Planting and Soil Building
24:14 Challenges in the Nursery Industry
27:22 Native Vines for Shady Areas
29:05 The Dilemma of Using Roundup
30:08 Alternatives to Pulling Weeds
30:35 The Importance of Soil Health
33:20 Mulching and Leaf Management
38:19 Native vs. Non-Native Plants
39:23 Adapting Gardening Practices to Climate
42:48 Client Preferences and Garden Aesthetics
45:21 Climate Change and Gardening
51:14 Integrated Pest Management
52:06 End
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Land Language is a podcast for landscape professionals, plant lovers, and anyone who wants to understand what it really takes to build regeneratively. Hosted by contractor/designer Brit Sastrawidjaya and designer Bethany Rydmark, each episode brings you expert insights, practical tools, and honest conversations about transforming the landscape industry from the ground up.