This is an update on the episode that was supposed to go live today. My guest for this last episode of the season is an artist and art teacher living in Gaza, Noura Al Qasasia. Ahead of our interview, she and her family was pushed to pack up and move to another area of the Gaza Strip. My hope is that this interview will still happen, if Noura is willing, able, and wanting to use this platform to share about that experience and about her art and teaching. If this episode is not possible at this time, Imagination State will resume again in the new year.

Find Noura's work here.

Learn more about Noura and support her family's GoFundMe here.

What might an imagination curriculum look like? How is learning the art of interruption a key part of that?

This week's guest is Barbara Leckie, professor at Canada's Carleton University, author of Climate Change Interrupted: Representation and the Remaking of Time, and host of the podcast Commons Sense. Barbara’s work moves between Victorian literature, climate communication, and environmental humanities, and she is one of the most creative thinkers I know.

Our conversation begins with a drawing exercise (join us!) and moves into Barbara’s frameworks of interruption, re-storying, and nonlinear time. We talk about why climate “alarms” so often fail to generate action, what it means to think beyond linear narratives of progress, and how love for the world and for one another might be the most powerful climate response. Barbara also shares how stories hold communities together and how tending to our imaginations - both personal and collective - is vital for attention and care.

Mentioned in this episode:

• Barbara Leckie’s book: Climate Change Interrupted: Representation and the Remaking of Time
• Her essay Loving the World Could Address the Climate Crisis and Help Us Make Sense of Changes to Come (The Conversation)
• Hannah Arendt’s idea of amor mundi (love of the world)
• A Walter Benjamin sample
• Ursula Franklin's idea of the potluck
• Barbara’s podcast: Commons Sense
• Robin Wall Kimmerer on stones
• Jane Hirshfield 3 pebbles

Invitation:

Barbara's invitation: take a stone, any stone, and spend time meditating on it. Consider its origins, its weight, its place in the wider world, and how it connects you to histories, ecologies, and futures beyond your own.

Ideas? Visions? Imaginaries? Email rebekaryvola@gmail.com.

This episode was edited by Angela Ohlfest, typographer from Simon Walker, music from Cosmo Sheldrake.

César Jung-Harada has a wildly adventurous life: He’s a justice-oriented philosopher-inventor traversing the world’s oceans to help humanity adapt to climate change. He has built oil-spill robots, shape-shifting boats, floating cities, and hydrogen devices. The inventions range in technology and scale, but the heart and soul remains the same. César uses imagination and inclusion to scaffold all he does, believing that children, students, refugees, artists, and local “non-experts” belong at the design table and have contributions that are just as - if not more - valuable than those more credentialed.

Listen to hear César talk about everything from equality and inclusion, to animism and Shintoism, to “returning to the animal” that we are.

Mentioned in this episode:

• Studio Ghibli exhibit
• César Jung Harada: An Ocean City Reimagined exhibit
• Balon Balon Ijo, Floating Solar Hydrogen
• Protei, Shape-Shifting Sailing Robot
• “Coralbot” Coral Reef Mapping Robot
• Oyster Hatchery "Floating Marine Laboratory"
• Ocean Imagineer. Floating solar hydrogen pilot plant
• Rebecca Solnit’s Hope in the Dark
• Paul Feyerabend’s Against Method

César‘s invitation, from his mother’s wisdom:

To return to the animal that you are, you need to forget. How much can you forget? Can you let go of your name, material attachments, problems and worries? Humans can experience so much unnecessary suffering, but if you can forget, you get closer to experiencing the simplicity of being an animal among animals.

Ideas? Visions? Imaginaries? Email rebekaryvola@gmail.com.

This episode was edited by Angela Ohlfest, typographer from Simon Walker, music from Cosmo Sheldrake.

Daniel Tam-Claiborne is a writer, producer, and nonprofit leader whose work bridges cultures and builds belonging. His debut novel Transplants (Simon & Schuster, 2025), a finalist for the PEN/Bellwether Prize for Socially Engaged Fiction, follows two young women navigating borders, responsibility, and the search for home. A former Fulbright Scholar and NEA Fellow, Daniel is now Deputy Director of The Serica Initiative, where he works to illuminate Asian American stories.

In this episode, we talk about what it means to see the world from the periphery, with Daniel sharing how that outsider vantage point can sharpen observation skills and deepen empathy. We explore the responsibilities that come with connecting - and writing - across cultures and genders, the rise of anti-Asian hate, the tension between nuance and didacticism in socially engaged fiction, and the ways characters and story can guide an author through unexpected imagination landscapes.

Imagination invitation from Daniel:

Daniel invites us to experiment with a digital Sabbath: turning off devices from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. For him, this weekly practice interrupts the cycle of external validation and opens space for more embodied presence.

Mentioned:

• Daniel Tam-Claiborne’s novel Transplants
• The Serica Initiative
• Lunar Collective
• Wind phones

Ideas? Visions? Imaginaries? Email rebekaryvola@gmail.com.

This episode was edited by Angela Ohlfest, typographer from Simon Walker, music from Cosmo Sheldrake.

This week on Imagination State, we are joined by Amelia Hruby - feminist writer, podcaster, and creator of Off the Grid, a podcast and community for people reclaiming their attention from social media. With Off the Grid and as the founder of Softer Sounds, Amelia helps artists and entrepreneurs build thriving creative lives beyond the extractive attention economies of social media. A former philosophy professor and the author of Fifty Feminist Mantras, Amelia’s work spans feminist philosophy, digital well-being, and spiritual practice.

In our conversation, Amelia revisits her imagination origins, from her early days in North Carolina to Chicago, where activism, feminist theory, and community radio reshaped her worldview and creative practice. She shares how she came to see social media as fundamentally misaligned with her values of liberation, gentleness, and integrity and what happened when she finally decided to leave.

We talk about imagination and attention: what we lose when we outsource our creativity to platforms, what opens up when we escape, and how podcasts and voice can create spaces of connection that resist the flattening effects of screen living.

This episode is for anyone who has ever wondered what we give up when we spend one month of every year in billionaire-controlled social media landscapes, and what becomes possible when we step into a different world altogether.

Imagination Invitation:

Amelia invites you to keep a “should diary.” For one day, write down every time you think I should… or I shouldn’t. Then revisit the list to notice which “shoulds” are truly yours, and which come from systems and expectations outside of you. This is a self-liberation invitation.

Mentioned:

• Amelia Hruby’s podcast: Off the Grid
• Off the Grid theme song by Melissa Kaitlyn Carter
• Softer Sounds, Amelia's feminist podcast studio
• Amelia's first book Fifty Feminist Mantras
• Amelia’s upcoming book (Fall 2025) Your Attention is Sacred Except on Social Media

Ideas? Visions? Imaginaries? Email rebekaryvola@gmail.com.

This episode was edited by Angela Ohlfest, typographer from Simon Walker, music from Cosmo Sheldrake.

Why wouldn’t we want all stories together? We miss out when we’re segregated.

Marcie’s stories open the door to her home and her heart - and, somehow, to your own. She once wrote that newsletters are like the Off-Broadway productions of what’s happening in Midtown. Her recent Love Letters on Substack feel like the main show: intimate, arresting, and something you carry with you long after it’s over. She doesn’t turn away from sorrow or injustice, but she shows us another way to live in this world: magically, generously, full of care.

In this conversation, we talk about home - the one you carry inside you - and the different forms it can take. We talk about her memoir Everybody Come Alive, we talk about hobbits and banned books, paper dolls and Toni Morrison, childhood beauty and the moments that made it feel fragile. We talk about bookstores and “staying in your lane,” and why joy and romance matter just as much to the work of change as outrage or protest.

Marcie Alvis-Walker is a writer, theologian, and cultural critic. Her work explores the sacred beyond the walls of institutional religion, and invites deep reckonings with history, belonging, and how we care for each other.

I don’t know if we can overcome the loneliness of this internet era while within online spaces, like this one. I don’t know if it’s possible to truly be together in fragmented, digital places. But I do know that Marcie is applying romance, beauty, and enchantment to that question.

Imagination Invitation

Marcie invites you to choose a sacred text... Not necessarily scripture, but any story, book, or world where the hero wins in the end. Let it be your place of return, a source of beauty, magic, and resilience. Marcie shares that the sacred text can be any story that you connect to: The Lord of the Rings, an Emily Henry romance, or a favorite video game. Lean into the stories that remind you of wonder and carry you through difficult times.

Mentioned in this episode:

• Marcie’s book Everybody Come Alive
• Beloved by Toni Morrison
• The role of "small joys" - let Meghan Markle make her platters!

Ideas? Visions? Imaginaries? Email rebekaryvola@gmail.com.

This episode was edited by Angela Ohlfest, typographer from Simon Walker, music from Cosmo Sheldrake.

Hello again, and a warm welcome to new listeners! This is the first episode of a new season and, in a way, the first chapter of an entirely new story. Old friends will remember The Heart Gallery; now, we’ve stepped out into the wider - and wilder? - landscape of the imagination.

In this short opening episode, I share the tale of a matrescence-sparked imagination awakening, the first beginning of a curriculum experiment drawn from works of those on the imagination frontlines, and a glimpse of what’s to come this season.

Mentioned in this episode:
- Krista Tippet, On Being pod, & Adrienne Maree Brown's On Radical Imagination and Moving Towards Life.
- Tani Cade Bambara on making revolutionary change irresistible - secondary source.
- Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt.
- Ocean Vuong on Talk Easy pod.
- Murmuration example.

Ideas? Visions? Imaginaries? Email rebekaryvola@gmail.com.

This episode was edited by Angela Ohlfest, typographer from Simon Walker, music from Cosmo Sheldrake.

In this episode, we step into the world of ethnomusicology with Angela Impey. Angela is a researcher, author, and senior lecturer at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, where she explores the links between music, culture, and social change.

Angela shares her experiences during apartheid in South Africa, where music became a powerful form of political expression, along with stories from several ethnomusicology projects across the African continent. She explains how performance-based knowledge systems are important in addressing global challenges like the climate crisis, and what constitutes “proper knowledge”. We discuss how we can bridge between mainstream paradigms and other, but no less valid, frameworks of understanding our surroundings.

Songs around the world hold histories, clues, concepts, connections, and characters that have been not listened to, not heard, by so many. You surely won’t listen to your surroundings the same way after hearing from Angela. I hope you enjoy this invitation into the world of ethnomusicology with Professor Angela Impey.

Mentioned
- Merlyn Driver and his curlew project
- Musician Jeremy Dutcher
- Angela’s book Song Walking: Women, Music, and Environmental Justice in an African Borderland
- Scholar Donna Haraway
- Acacia karroo tree
- Chinspot batis bird

Connect
- Angela Impey’s work
- Rebeka Instagram
- The Heart Gallery Instagram

Credits
Jonathan Raz for podcast editing, Cosmo Sheldrake for use of his song Pelicans We, podcast art by me, Rebeka Ryvola de Kremer.