In this episode of INTERFACES, we open the first of a two‑partconversation with CRAIG DELLER.

Episode 2 looks at Communication Within the conservation profession, while Episode 3 will shift outward to CommunicationBeyond, directed toward the public.

Here, Craig reflects on how communication shapes daily practice in cultural heritage conservation.

What began as a single episode quickly revealed itself to be a broader topic with two distinct dimensions: one within the profession, among colleagues, and one reaching beyond it, toward the public.

With decades of experience across private practice, institutions, and international collaborations, Craig has also been a pioneer in using digital platforms to make scientific knowledge accessible and to bring professionals together.

His perspective is rooted in daily practice and long‑standing dialogue across disciplines.

All of Craig’s references and platforms can be found below

Craig Deller — YouTube Channel

A channel Craig created to share clear, practical, and accessible conservation knowledge through videos and curated playlists

https://www.youtube.com/@craigdeller2024/playlists
Art of the Conservator
A Facebook community founded by Craig, created to give conservators a space to exchange practical insights, discuss real cases, and support one another across specialties

https://www.facebook.com/groups/objectconservation
FREELANCE: Conservators in Private Practice

A group Craig established to connect freelance conservators, share resources, and open conversations about the realities and challenges of private practice

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1679578638848189
Craig Deller — LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-deller-faic-fiic-80b8a6374/

INTERFACES CONTACTS

To reach out, here is my contact:info@simonasajeva.com

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Media: Salvatore Melluso

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If you enjoyed our conversation and want to delve deeper, check out my books:

"Conservazione delle Decorazioni architettoniche: Il ruolo delle strutture di supporto " (2022)

https://www.nardinieditore.it/prodotto/conservazione-decorazioni-architettoniche/

"Pitture Murali, i Degradi di Origine Meccanica. Metodologia per Restauratori e Ingegneri" (2024)

https://www.nardinieditore.it/lavoro/pitture-murali-degradi-di-origine-meccanica

MUSIC & SOUND EFFECTS CREDITS

Cinematic Time Lapse by Lexin

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https://pixabay.com/users/lexin_music-28841948/

Autumn Reason by Amaksi

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In this episode of INTERFACES, structural engineer, author, and painter Mentor Llunji joins us for a rich and layered conversation on the theme of “Structure” in cultural heritage conservation.

Mentor Llunji is a generous communicator and critical thinker whose work bridges engineering, architecture, and cultural understanding.

His publications include Seismic Architecture: The Architecture of Earthquake Resistant Structures and Towards a New Engineering: Reflections of a Practitioner, both of which offer insightful perspectives on the expressive and philosophical dimensions of structural design.

Our dialogue traces a long-standing intellectual exchange—beginning with the study of mechanical deterioration in mural paintings and evolving into the expressive potential of seismic architecture.

Mentor reflects on how structural thinking shapes not only buildings, but also the way we perceive, interpret, and preserve their authenticity.

Together, we explore:

- Structure as a form of perception, not just technical necessity

- The philosophical foundations of structural design

- Structural behavior as part of a building’s authentic identity

- The interplay between traditional techniques and modern engineering

- Sustainability through interdisciplinary collaboration

- The relationship between engineering and painting as creative practices

To explore more of Mentor’s work, visit his professional website

https://www.msproject.me/

and his blog, where he shares reflections “about structural engineering, its present, future, and its relation to architecture and art...”

https://mentorllunji.com/

CONTACTS

To reach out, here is my contact: info@simonasajeva.com

Produced by a talented team:

Media: Salvatore Melluso

Contact: mellusodreamer@gmail.com

Graphic Design: Emanuela Nosari

Contact: enosari.servizieditoriali@gmail.com

Language: Tanya Yakovenko

Contact: tanya.language.trainer@gmail.com

If you enjoyed our conversation and want to delve deeper, check out my books:

"Conservazione delle Decorazioni architettoniche: Il ruolo delle strutture di supporto"

https://www.nardinieditore.it/prodotto/conservazione-decorazioni-architettoniche/

"Pitture Murali, i Degradi di Origine Meccanica. Metodologia per Restauratori e Ingegneri"

https://www.nardinieditore.it/lavoro/pitture-murali-degradi-di-origine-meccanica

MUSIC & SOUND EFFECTS CREDITS

Cinematic Time Lapse by Lexin

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https://pixabay.com/users/lexin_music-28841948/

Autumn Reason by Amaksi

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https://pixabay.com/users/amaksi-28332361/

Note: my voice audio is a bit rough in this episode. Thanks for understanding — we’re working on it!

INTERFACES / the podcast is back, with Series 2.

This season, we continue exploring the language of culturalheritage conservation, one word at a time. But now, we’re joined by guests:engineers, conservators, artists, and thinkers who bring their ownperspectives, questions, and insights.

Each episode focuses on a key term, like “structure”,“material”, “balance”, or “repair”, to reflect on how words shape the way wedesign, preserve, and understand what we inherit.

Interfaces means frontiers, contact zones, wheredifferent things meet, affecting each other, finding new equilibrium.That’s the spirit of this podcast: a space where disciplines connect, and ideasevolve through dialogue.

Thanks for listening. Speak soon!

CONTACTS

To reach out, here is my contact:info@simonasajeva.com

Produced by a talented team:

Media: Salvatore Melluso

Contact: mellusodreamer@gmail.com

Graphic Design: Emanuela Nosari

Contact: enosari.servizieditoriali@gmail.com

Language: Tanya Yakovenko

Contact:tanya.language.trainer@gmail.com

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Note: As we continue to enhance our work, we recognize there are still a few audio and pronunciation quirks we're addressing. Thank you for your support as we refine our craft. We're excited to have you with us on this journey!

"TIME"!

In this episode of INTERFACES, the Podcast, we take a deep dive into the concept of time in cultural heritage conservation. Learn how time challenges us to reflect on change, limits, and responsibility, and why embracing its cycles is key to creating resilient conservation practices.

Discover how, thanks to the recent international conference EXCISS in Valencia, collaborations like the one between ISCMP and ICORP can help understand the dynamic nature of heritage and the importance of working with time, not against it.

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Here's your roadmap to listening—guiding you through the episode’s chapters:

(00:00) Intro

(03:22) Time goes by, so slowly…

(05:09) Time as a cycle

(09:15) Embracing time, embracing responsibility

(11:59) Conclusions - choices and cycles

(14:14) Ending

CONTACTS

To reach out, here is my contact: info@simonasajeva.com

Produced by a talented team:

Media: Salvatore Melluso

Contact: mellusodreamer@gmail.com

Graphic Design: Emanuela Nosari

Contact: enosari.servizieditoriali@gmail.com

Language: Tanya Yakovenko

Contact: tanya.language.trainer@gmail.com

MAIN REFERENCES

If you enjoyed our conversation and want to delve deeper, check out my books:

"Conservazione delle Decorazioni architettoniche: Il ruolo delle strutture di supporto " (2022)

https://www.nardinieditore.it/prodotto/conservazione-decorazioni-architettoniche/

"Pitture Murali, i Degradi di Origine Meccanica. Metodologia per Restauratori e Ingegneri" (2024)

https://www.nardinieditore.it/lavoro/pitture-murali-degradi-di-origine-meccanica/

DEFINITIONS & OTHER SOURCES

EXCISS – Book of Abstracts Download

https://exciss.blogs.upv.es/en/

Il Giornale dell’Arte

https://ilgiornaledellarte.com/Articolo/Emergenze-e-disastri-la-Carta-di-Valencia-per-non-arrivare-impreparati

ICOMOS ISCMP website

https://muralpainting.icomos.org/

ICOMOS ICORP website

https://icorp.icomos.org/

MUSIC & SOUND EFFECTS CREDITS

Night Detective by Amaksi

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Autumn Reason by Amaksi

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clock-ticking-sound-effect-240503.mp3

https://pixabay.com/sound-effects/film-01-7130/

https://pixabay.com/sound-effects/clock-ticking-sound-effect-240503/

Sound Effect by LIECIO from Pixabay

https://pixabay.com/sound-effects/windows-night-celeste-loop-132289/

Sound Effect by freesound_community from Pixabay

https://pixabay.com/fr/sound-effects/paulstretch-of-atonal-modular-sound-31021/

Note: As we continue to enhance our work, we recognize there are still a few audio and pronunciation quirks we're addressing. Thank you for your support as we refine our craft. We're excited to have you with us on this journey!

“Authenticity” Takes Center Stage!

In this episode of INTERFACES, the Podcast, we explore what authenticity really means in cultural heritage conservation.

Find out how understanding authenticity can change the way we preserve historical buildings, sites and artifacts.

Authenticity isn't just about how things look; it goes much deeper.

Discover the significance of structural functionality and how an interdisciplinary approach can foster more sustainable conservation practices.

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CONTACTS

To reach out, here is my contact: info@simonasajeva.com

Produced by a talented team:

Media: Salvatore Melluso

Contact: mellusodreamer@gmail.com

Graphic Design: Emanuela Nosari

Contact: enosari.servizieditoriali@gmail.com

Language: Tanya Yakovenko

Contact: tanya.language.trainer@gmail.com

MAIN REFERENCES

If you enjoyed our conversation and want to delve deeper, check out my books:

"Conservazione delle Decorazioni architettoniche: Il ruolo delle strutture di supporto " (2022)

https://www.nardinieditore.it/prodotto/conservazione-decorazioni-architettoniche/

"Pitture Murali, i Degradi di Origine Meccanica. Metodologia per Restauratori e Ingegneri" (2024)

https://www.nardinieditore.it/lavoro/pitture-murali-degradi-di-origine-meccanica/

Definitions & other sources

Authenticity

The NARA document on authenticity (1994)

https://www.icomos.org/en/charters-and-texts/179-articles-en-francais/ressources/charters-and-standards/386-the-nara-document-on-authenticity-1994

UNESCO Glossary

https://whc.unesco.org/en/glossary/187

Operational Guidelines (The concept of Authenticity is described in the paragraphs 79-86.)

Operational Guidelines for the Implementation of the World Heritage Convention

Jukka Jokilehto, Questions of authenticity

In: Conversaciones... con HERB STOVEL - Núm. 8, Diciembre 2019, pp. 55 - 72

https://www.iccrom.org/sites/default/files/publications/2020-05/convern8_02_jjokilehto_ing.pdf

36th CIHA World Congress - Lyon 2024 – Matter & Materiality

https://www.cihalyon2024.fr/en/material-materiality

Music & Sound Effects credits

Night Detective by Amaksi

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https://pixabay.com/music/beats-night-detective-226857/

Autumn Reason by Amaksi

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https://pixabay.com/users/amaksi-28332361/

Note: As we continue to enhance our work, we recognize there are still a few audio and pronunciation quirks we're addressing. Thank you for your support as we refine our craft. We're excited to have you with us on this journey!

“PATHOLOGY” Takes Center Stage!

In this episode of INTERFACES, the Podcast, we delve into the concept of pathology in cultural heritage conservation. Explore how understanding the difference between pathology and physiology can change our approach to preserving historical buildings and artefacts.

Discover the importance of distinguishing between alterations and degradations, and how an interdisciplinary perspective can lead to more sustainable conservation practices.

Stay tuned and make sure to follow my podcast on Spotify to receive updates on the latest episodes!

Here's how: Hit the Follow Button: Look for the "Follow" button on the podcast page to stay updated with new episodes. Rate the Podcast: Show your support by rating the podcast with stars. This helps more listeners discover the podcast.

Thank you for your support, and happy listening!

CONTACTS

To reach out, here is my contact: info@simonasajeva.com

Produced by a talented team:

Media: Salvatore Melluso

Contact: mellusodreamer@gmail.com

Graphic Design: Emanuela Nosari

Contact: enosari.servizieditoriali@gmail.com

Language: Tanya Yakovenko

Contact: tanya.language.trainer@gmail.com

MAIN REFERENCES

If you enjoyed our conversation and want to delve deeper, check out my books:

"Conservazione delle Decorazioni architettoniche: Il ruolo delle strutture di supporto " (2022)

https://www.nardinieditore.it/prodotto/conservazione-decorazioni-architettoniche/

"Pitture Murali, i Degradi di Origine Meccanica. Metodologia per Restauratori e Ingegneri" (2024) https://www.nardinieditore.it/lavoro/pitture-murali-degradi-di-origine-meccanica/

DEFINITIONS

Pathology

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/pathology

ICOMOS-ISCS: Illustrated glossary on stone deterioration patterns - Glossaire illustré sur les formes d’altération de la pierre

http://openarchive.icomos.org/id/eprint/434/

Conservation WIKI, Building Pathology

https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Building_pathology

MUSIC & SOUND EFFECTS CREDITS

Night Detective by Amaksi

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https://pixabay.com/users/amaksi-28332361/

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https://pixabay.com/music/beats-night-detective-226857/

Autumn Reason by Amaksi

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https://pixabay.com/users/amaksi-28332361/

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https://pixabay.com/music/dubstep-autumn-reason-159662/

African Savanna by AugustSandberg (Freesound)

https://pixabay.com/sound-effects/african-savanna-2-23769/

Gajah by SondangSirait419

https://pixabay.com/sound-effects/gajah-220044/

Elephant by geronimo83

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