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Intersection4 Podcast: Diverse Discourse

Intersection4 Podcast: Diverse Discourse

Written by: Hamiz Awan
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Our diverse co-hosts, with backgrounds in investing, consulting, engineering, law, and tech, bring enriching insights to the table. We delve into a myriad of topics from tech, economics, investing, and scaling - pushing boundaries and stimulating intellect. Embark on the Intersection4 journey to question the status quo and expand your perspective. Co-Hosts: Hamiz Awan @ Plutus21 Capital (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hamizawan/) Sam Padilla @ Google (https://twitter.com/theSamPadilla) Brendon Geils @ Athena Intelligence (https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendongeils/) Rich Widmann @ Google (httpsHamiz Awan Economics
Episodes
  • Episode #23 - AI, Inflation & Investing: Navigating the New Economy
    Jun 18 2025

    SummaryIn this episode, we discuss the current dynamics of the stock market, focusing on tariffs, emotional management in investing, the impact of social media, inflation, and the divergence of Bitcoin from traditional markets. We explore how investors can prepare for changing world orders and the implications of currency comparisons in today's economic climate. In this conversation, we discuss the shifting dynamics of global economic power, the evolution of AI technologies, and the implications of current trends in large language models (LLMs) and artificial general intelligence (AGI). We explore the skepticism surrounding AI hype, the pace of technological change, and the nature of reasoning in AI systems. The discussion culminates in predictions of AGI and the role of LLMs in achieving it.

    Takeaways

    - The market often transfers wealth from the impatient to the patient.

    - Emotional management is crucial for investment success.

    - Social media can distort perceptions of market realities.

    - Inflation plays a significant role in long-term investment returns.

    - Bitcoin is increasingly viewed as a risk-off asset.

    - Active management is essential in a changing economic landscape.

    - Investors should discern which companies are affected by market changes.

    - Cash is a poor long-term investment due to inflation.

    - Understanding cultural contexts can inform investment strategies.

    - The current economic climate may signal a shift in global power dynamics.

    - The flight to quality in investments is shifting.

    - Skepticism towards AI can lead to missed opportunities.

    - Investor consensus often leads to incorrect predictions.

    - Technological changes take longer than anticipated.

    - LLMs may not be the sole path to AGI.

    - The future of AGI remains uncertain but exciting.

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    43 mins
  • Episode #22 - AI Agents and Robotics: Paving the Way for the Future
    Jun 3 2025

    SummaryIn this episode, the hosts delve into the evolving landscape of AI interfaces and robotics. They discuss the limitations of current web and API designs for AI agents, the potential of new interfaces like MCPs, and the implications of advancements in robotics technology. The conversation highlights the challenges and opportunities in the robotics sector, particularly regarding investment trends and the importance of data and distribution in developing humanoid robots.TakeawaysWebsites are designed for humans, not AI.

    MCPs could revolutionize agent interactions.

    AI agents are improving rapidly, potentially outpacing MCP development.

    The incentive for companies to adopt MCPs is questionable.Investors often follow trends rather than understanding technology.

    Manufacturing at scale is a significant challenge for robotics.Data collection is crucial for training robotic systems.

    Humanoid robots are still in early development stages.

    The robotics landscape is evolving with new models and technologies.

    Startups may struggle to compete with established companies in robotics.

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    26 mins
  • Intersection4 Podcast - Episode #21 - The Role of Multimodal Data in Shaping the Future of AI
    May 21 2025

    Summary

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the intersection of AI agents and the crypto space, exploring the significant gap between the two communities. They delve into the importance of integration and tooling in AI development, the role of open source in both fields, and the various approaches to training AI agents. The conversation also touches on the emergence of AI tokens and their impact on the credibility of the industry, as well as the current state of agentic systems and the future of AGI.

    Takeaways

    • AI agents are gaining traction in the crypto space.
    • There is a significant gap between AI and crypto communities.
    • Integration of tools is crucial for AI development.
    • Open source development is a key aspect of both AI and crypto.
    • Different approaches exist for training AI agents.
    • Building a multimodal data collection network is essential for AI advancement.
    • AI tokens are becoming a new trend, but may hurt credibility.
    • The current state of agentic systems shows potential but has limitations.
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    53 mins
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