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In this heartfelt and globally enriched conversation, Joey Pinz sits down with storyteller, journalist, and events leader Kris Tanaka, whose life has been shaped by language, culture, and a deep commitment to human connection. Kris shares her remarkable journey studying Japanese from childhood, living a decade in Japan, and learning how language influences behavior, relationships, and even emotional expression.
Together, they explore the nuances of communication, the cultural layers behind expressions that don’t translate, and how travel expands empathy and perspective. Kris also speaks about her Hawaiian roots, the concept of ohana, and how growing up in a cultural melting pot shaped her worldview.
In her role at CyberRisk Alliance, Kris explains why MSSP Alert Live succeeds: participation, purposeful networking, and the magic of spontaneous connections. She discusses what makes events thrive, how to maximize value from industry conferences, and why cybersecurity professionals inspire her daily.
The conversation also dives into personal growth—pivoting careers, overcoming fear of change, redefining success, finding inspiration in everyday “magic,” and the emotional impact of helping others shine.
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• 🌏 How language & culture shape communication
• 🤝 What truly makes industry events meaningful
• ✨ Inspiration, motivation & embracing life’s magic

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Discipline. How does it play a role in your life? How does it drive your decisions? Do you have too much or too little? Every profession, hobby, or passion requires a level of discipline. I have used it in weight loss (+130 lbs.), family death, and found a +25 year business. Am I an expert? Absolutely not! Please join me, as I speak to interesting people and find out how discipline affects their career, life, goals, and de

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In this captivating and wide-ranging conversation, Joey Pinz welcomes cybersecurity executive, author, and Brazilian jiu-jitsu enthusiast Caroline Wong. What begins with jiu-jitsu quickly expands into a profound dialogue about humility, body awareness, emotional regulation, and the unexpected personal growth that comes from combat sports—especially as an adult beginner.
Caroline opens up about her upcoming book on AI and cybersecurity, explaining how AI isn’t just another shift—it’s redefining the entire security landscape. She outlines how to evaluate real AI solutions, why transparency matters, and how LLMs make modern social engineering nearly indistinguishable from authentic communication.
She also reflects on tech’s wobbly job market, why global talent has reshaped the industry, and which cybersecurity markets AI will completely replace in the years ahead. The conversation deepens as Caroline shares her journey through sobriety, the discipline instilled by her Chinese immigrant parents, the challenges of raising resilient kids in a privileged world, and why joy, peace, and positive impact—not titles—define success.
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• 🤖 How AI will erase entire segments of cybersecurity
• 🥋 What jiu-jitsu teaches about humility, resilience, and equality
• 💛 Why having a compelling “why” enables deep personal transformation

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Discipline. How does it play a role in your life? How does it drive your decisions? Do you have too much or too little? Every profession, hobby, or passion requires a level of discipline. I have used it in weight loss (+130 lbs.), family death, and found a +25 year business. Am I an expert? Absolutely not! Please join me, as I speak to interesting people and find out how discipline affects their career, life, goals, and decisions. Join me as I talk to interes

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In this high-energy and entertaining episode, Joey Pinz sits down with cybersecurity founder and unabashed Italian-American storyteller Tony Pietrocola. From stomping grapes as a child to running an AI-driven security operations platform, Tony brings a rare blend of toughness, humor, and entrepreneurial clarity.
They jump from wine, cooking, and massive NFL bodies to college football, concussions, and how elite athletes are built differently. Tony shares what makes college football the real American spectacle—and why private equity is about to reshape the sport.
On the cybersecurity front, Tony breaks down the challenges MSPs face, why most still struggle with security, and how AgileBlue helps them build profitable, white-label practices without the overhead of running a SOC. He explains the three questions every MSP should ask a vendor, the rise of AI-assisted attacks, and why consolidation and greenfield opportunities are the biggest missed revenue streams.
The conversation ends with health, habit, and personal transformation—discussing Joey’s 130-lb weight loss, Tony’s daily 5 a.m. workouts, and the childhood structure that forged their work ethic.
🔥 Top 3 Highlights
• 🤖 How AI hurts and helps cybersecurity
• 🚀 The spite-driven origin story behind AgileBlue
🏈 What sports and fitness teach us about business and consistency


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Discipline. How does it play a role in your life? How does it drive your decisions? Do you have too much or too little? Every profession, hobby, or passion requires a level of discipline. I have used it in weight loss (+130 lbs.), family death, and found a +25 year business. Am I an expert? Absolutely not! Please join me, as I speak to interesting people and find out how discipline affects their career, life, goals, and decisions. Join me as I talk to in

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In this powerful and deeply insightful conversation, Joey Pinz sits down with national security leader Valerie Cofield to explore the past, present, and future of cybersecurity across government, critical infrastructure, and everyday life. With 26 years at the FBI, senior leadership at CISA, and her current mission at ICIT, Valerie brings unmatched clarity to the threats shaping our world—from nation-state attacks on rural water systems to AI-enabled scams targeting vulnerable populations.
Valerie reflects on why critical infrastructure is now a primary battleground, how bipartisan policy work shaped U.S. cyber readiness, and why the private sector—not government—will be on the front lines of future conflicts. She also shares her personal journey as the daughter of South Korean immigrants, the gratitude that shaped her service, and the emotional weight of protecting the country that gave her family a second chance.
Beyond cyber, Joey and Valerie discuss reading habits, mental health, misinformation, and the dangers social media poses to young people. Valerie also offers a heartfelt perspective on leadership, longevity, habits, exercise, and earning success through consistency—not perfection.
🔥 Top 3 Highlights
• 🌎 Why critical infrastructure is now a global battleground for nation-state cyber conflict
• 🏛️ The inside story of cyber legislation, CISA, and bipartisan national security
• 💡 How habits, service, and gratitude shape leadership and personal growth

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In this energizing and uplifting conversation, Joey Pinz sits down with cybersecurity rising star ChiChi Ubah, whose passion for learning, adventure, and personal growth lights up every moment of the dialogue. ChiChi shares her love for adrenaline-filled activities, her ambitions to learn to fly a small aircraft, and the mindset that fuels her ongoing pursuit of new experiences—including her PhD focused on AI-driven cybersecurity curriculum development.
A dedicated advocate for women in cybersecurity, ChiChi discusses the life-changing support she’s received from WiCyS, where mentorship, training, and certifications helped guide her path into cloud security. She reflects on the role of representation, allies, and community in creating opportunities for women in a male-dominated industry.
The conversation also explores breaking old beliefs, embracing intentionality, and the everyday practice of consistency—whether pursuing certifications, maintaining health, or building a TikTok channel from 0 to 5,000 followers. ChiChi also opens up about motivation, legacy, and redefining success through freedom, impact, and personal evolution.
This episode is packed with insight, heart, humor, and the fearless drive of someone committed to becoming better every day.
🔥 Top 3 Highlights
• ☁️ Why cloud security’s rapid evolution fuels lifelong learning
• 💪 The transformative power of mentorship and representation for women in cyber
• 📈 How consistency and intentionality create real, lasting growth

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In this inspiring conversation, Joey Pinz speaks with cybersecurity advocate Brianna Steele, who brings a refreshing and deeply human perspective to one of the world’s most technical professions. With a background in psychology and a passion for understanding human behavior, Brianna explains why attacker motivations, intentions, and emotional drivers are just as important as the tools they use.
Brianna shares her journey from Arizona to the Washington, D.C. area, her involvement with Women in CyberSecurity (WiCyS), and why representation and mentorship are pivotal for bringing more women into the field. She breaks down how behavioral analysis shapes her interest in SOC work and why understanding “why people hack” matters as much as how they do it.
The conversation expands into AI as a study companion, fasting and lifestyle discipline, motivation rooted in love, and the importance of self-awareness when entering a high-pressure industry. Brianna’s warmth and clarity make this an energizing episode for anyone exploring cybersecurity, career transition, or personal growth.
🔥 Top 3 Highlights
• 🧠 How psychology helps decode attacker behavior
• 👩‍💻 The mission & impact of Women in CyberSecurity
❤️ Why love, process, and intentionality define true success




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In this thoughtful and deeply human conversation, Joey Pinz sits down with Sharon Florentine, Editorial Director at CyberRisk Alliance, to explore the intersection of creativity, leadership, community, and the ever-changing MSP landscape. Sharon shares her roots as a rhythm guitarist, her love of knitting, and the creative habits that keep her grounded before diving into the bigger questions facing today’s MSPs.

Sharon breaks down the three biggest challenges MSPs face—security, human capital, and sustainable growth—and explains how media, community, and honest storytelling can help leaders navigate them. She discusses how CyberRisk Alliance supports MSPs with trusted reporting, events, education, and authentic industry insight.

The conversation also explores the evolution of publishing, the role of AI in editing, the importance of company values, and the subtle but powerful impact of workplace culture. Sharon also opens up about her personal journey quitting smoking and how consistency, clarity, and self-awareness shape both personal and professional success.

This episode blends heart, humor, and hard-won wisdom—perfect for anyone building a business, a team, or a better version of themselves.

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• 🛡️ The real challenges MSPs face today—and how to navigate them
• 📝 Why editing still matters in an AI-driven world
• 🌱 How culture, values, and clarity shape business success

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Episode 800 of Joey Pinz Discipline Conversations is a milestone moment—recorded live on stage at IT Nation 2025 in Orlando. In this special episode, Joey Pinz shares his speaking session, “Media Mastery: How MSPs Can Drive Growth with Podcasting, Video, and Beyond.”
What started as an early-morning session turned into a packed room of MSPs and vendors eager to learn how modern buyers actually discover and trust service providers today. The message is clear: your next client isn’t Googling—they’re scrolling.
Joey breaks down how MSPs can shift from chasing leads to creating conversations using podcasts, video, and authentic storytelling. Drawing from his journey building and selling an MSP, launching a top-ranked podcast, and growing a 75,000+ subscriber media platform, Joey offers practical, no-fluff guidance you can apply immediately—without fancy gear or massive budgets.
This episode blends real-world examples, tactical advice, and live audience Q&A covering everything from starting your first podcast to sourcing guests, building credibility, and standing out in a noisy market.
If you’re an MSP owner, vendor, or service-based business looking to build trust, visibility, and long-term growth, this episode delivers the blueprint—straight from the IT Nation stage.

⭐ Top 3 Highlights
1️⃣ The Modern MSP Funnel – Awareness → Trust → Conversations → Revenue
2️⃣ Why Real Conversations Beat Webinars & Pitches 🎥
3️⃣ A 90-Day Challenge to launch consistent content without overcomplication

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