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Joining the Dots

Joining the Dots

Written by: Matt Jessop & Al Kingsley
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”Joining the Dots” focuses on the many challenges facing education and how different approaches and innovations are required to meet these challenges, which, due to their interconnectedness, are also challenges facing all sorts of educational establishments, educators, parents and families, businesses and the economy as a whole. Co-hosts Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley, have discussions with innovative educators, business leaders, policymakers, and other stakeholders and guests.Copyright 2026 All Rights Reserved
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  • Season 2, Episode 7 - Empowering Inclusion Through Data with Dr Nic Ponsford
    Feb 13 2026

    In this episode, Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop chat with Dr Nicole Ponsford and discuss the critical role of inclusive data in education, emphasising the need for schools to listen to the voices of all stakeholders.

    She highlights the disconnect between the data collected and the real experiences of students and staff, advocating for a more nuanced approach to data interpretation. Nic also explores the impact of AI on education, the importance of social capital, and the ethical implications of data use. Her mission is to empower school leaders to create safe and inclusive environments for all students.

    Episode Takeaways

    • Data in schools tells us what has happened, not why.
    • Listening to unheard voices is crucial for inclusion.
    • Inclusion should be a lens, not a bolt-on.
    • Diversity enhances decision-making in education.
    • Measuring belonging is essential for student well-being.
    • Data should humanise individuals, not categorise them.
    • An inclusion champion is needed in every classroom.
    • Data must inform, not dictate, school improvement.
    • Granular data analysis reveals deeper insights.
    • Social capital is vital for building trust in schools.

    Remember, "Data doesn't tell us why it's happened." - also check out the amazing Global Equality Collective from here.

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    42 mins
  • Season 2, Episode 6 - Explore the Power of Happiness in Learning with Mathieu and Mark from Evolytes
    Dec 5 2025

    In this conversation, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley meet Mathieu Skulason and Mark Agerwala from Evolytes and explore the significance of improving student attitudes towards learning and how fostering happiness in learners can lead to better educational outcomes. The speakers emphasise the role of EvoLights in this process.

    Takeaways

    • Improving student attitudes leads to better learning outcomes.
    • Happy learners are more motivated to learn.
    • EvoLights focuses on enhancing student experiences.
    • Positive attitudes can transform educational environments.
    • Engagement is key to effective learning.
    • Fostering happiness in education is essential.
    • Student well-being impacts academic success.
    • Creating a supportive learning atmosphere is crucial.
    • Innovative approaches can improve student attitudes.
    • EvoLights aims to revolutionise learning experiences.

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    34 mins
  • Season 2, Episode 5 - Empowering Leaders in Education with Bukky Yusuf
    Nov 1 2025

    In this engaging conversation, Bukky Yusuf discusses with Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley her mission to empower leaders and young people in education, addressing the significant challenges they face today. She emphasises the importance of creating child-centred schools, the need for flexibility in education, and the role of leadership in fostering a positive environment. The discussion also delves into the impact of AI in education, the ethical considerations surrounding it, and the necessity of prioritising well-being for educators. Bukky's passion for education shines through as she shares insights and strategies for making a meaningful difference in the lives of students and teachers alike.

    Takeaways

    • Dedicated to helping leaders smash glass ceilings.
    • The current global climate presents significant challenges for young people.
    • A good school prioritises child-centred approaches.
    • Educators are facing increasing pressures and challenges in their roles.
    • Leadership in education requires flexibility and understanding.
    • AI presents both opportunities and challenges in the educational landscape.
    • Ethics and bias in AI are critical topics for educators to address.
    • Well-being strategies are essential for educators to thrive.
    • Creating a supportive school environment is vital for student success.
    • Passion in education can lead to transformative experiences for students.

    00:00 Introduction to Bukky 02:22 Challenges Facing Young People Today 05:35 Defining a Good School 08:21 The Role of Alternative Provision in Education 11:32 Leadership in Education: Shifts and Challenges 14:26 The Importance of Flexibility in Leadership 17:25 Navigating Divisive Issues in Education 19:21 Ethics in AI Education 22:31 Navigating AI in Schools 25:52 The Impact of Social Media and AI 29:40 Addressing Bias and Discrimination in AI 34:45 Well-being Strategies for Educators

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    38 mins
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