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KatAnu Connect Podcast

KatAnu Connect Podcast

Written by: Kate Megaw
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Kate Megaw, Ryan Smith & Anu Smalley host a variety of discussions on Leadership & Agility!

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  • Just Because AI Can, Doesn’t Mean It Should: The Human in the Loop and Why AI Transformations Fail
    Jun 8 2026

    AI can generate an answer in seconds. The harder question is whether it is the right answer to the right question, and what you actually do with it.

    In this episode, Kate Megaw, Anu Smalley, and Ryan Smith dig into what “human in the loop” really means, and why so many AI transformations are failing. Forbes puts enterprise generative AI failure near 95%, and RAND says more than 80% of AI projects miss. The pattern echoes the early Agile years: chasing a shiny tool without knowing what problem it solves.

    AI sees the data. Humans see the story behind it. The human brings context, ethics, and judgment, and stays the ethical guardian who catches the hallucination and the answer that is right for the wrong reasons.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • The human algorithm - turning AI outputs into real outcomes through context, ethics, and judgment
    • Why AI sees the data but only humans see the story behind it
    • Anu’s five workflow principles for human-led AI, including protecting the retro and naming a human decision owner for every recommendation
    • Why so many AI transformations fail, and how it mirrors the early Agile years
    • AI-enabled vs. AI-native organizations, and why native wins
    • Using AI as a tool versus trusting it to run the business
    • Choosing the right tool for the job instead of defaulting to one model for everything
    • The ethical guardian role - catching not just what AI gets wrong, but what it gets right for the wrong reasons
    • Knowing when to trust AI, when to challenge it, and when to override it

    Just because AI can do something does not mean it should. That is where humans come in. We are not using AI to replace thinking. We are creating more space for higher quality thinking for the human in the loop.

    Referenced in this episode: the documentary How I Became an Apocalyptimist (Daniel Rohrer), the Conan O’Brien podcast on how tools change but the task doesn’t, the New York Times feature on Box adding AI roles, and the AI-native shift discussed at the Miro Canvas conference.

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    32 mins
  • You Don't Have an Empowerment Problem. You Have an Ownership Problem.
    Jun 1 2026

    Leaders say their teams are empowered. The teams won't make a decision. Somewhere between those two sentences sits the real problem.

    This episode tackles the gap between the rhetoric of empowerment and the reality of approval-bottlenecked, micromanaged teams. Kate is joined from the Scottish Highlands by Anu Smalley and Ryan Smith for an honest look at why so many "empowered" teams quietly wait to be told what to do, why leaders struggle to let go, and what it actually takes to design autonomy into the system instead of just declaring it.

    Most organizations don't have an accountability problem; they have an ownership problem. Without ownership, accountability is just a polite word for blame. This conversation is a working tour through what changes that — the system shifts, the trust mechanics, the working agreements, and the daily moves leaders can make to stop rescuing and start coaching.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • The three-legged stool of trust — clarity, capability, and visibility — and how to spot which leg is wobbly when you feel the urge to micromanage
    • Why the system around a team has to absorb the shift in power before autonomy can take hold
    • Order takers vs. artisans, and how organizations train people out of ownership
    • Working agreements that make trust visible: blockers surfaced in 24 hours, no surprises at Sprint Review, no scope-switching mid-sprint, and done means done
    • Decision-making guardrails that replace approval queues, including the team empowered to spend up to $200 against the core values
    • Tracking emergent work as the real accountability gap leaders rarely look at
    • The Pomodoro escalation pattern — solo, pair, team, stop and reassess — that ends hero culture and 4am debugging sessions
    • Why leadership's two pillars are clarity of purpose and competence, not managing the work
    • The shift from "I know the answer" to "How can I help you find the answer?"

    Hope is not a strategy for empowerment. The goal isn't less leadership. It's leadership that creates more leaders.

    Referenced in this episode: Turn the Ship Around! by L. David Marquette, the Pomodoro Technique, and our recent episode You Don't Have a Strategy Problem: You Have an Execution Problem (Ep. 172).

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    29 mins
  • AI Stopped Being an Afterthought: Finding Calm in the Overwhelm and the Pivot Ahead
    May 25 2026

    event. Kate and Anu just wrapped a wild month on the road, and the message from both conferences was loud and clear: AI is no longer a bolt-on, it's the operating system!

    Fresh off Global Scrum Gathering Vancouver and Canvas 26 (Miro's user conference in San Francisco), Kate Megaw and Anu Smalley sit down with Ryan Smith to unpack two completely different conferences that delivered the exact same wake-up call.

    Inside: the highs, the lows, the pages of notes, and the calm that came after the dust settled. From the 80/20 flip to why AI-native beats AI-bolted-on, to the pivot Kate and Anu are making in their own business, this is a real, honest field report from two events and two very different rooms.

    If you're feeling the overwhelm too, you're not alone. Hit play. Take a breath. Let's find the calm together.

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    35 mins
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