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Leaders In Payments and FinTech - The EDC Podcast

Leaders In Payments and FinTech - The EDC Podcast

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Join EDC’s hosts as they meet with a mix of leaders and practitioners at every level in the industry to learn what it actually takes to bridge the gap between strategy and execution and build a commercially viable business in the payments and fintech industry. Episode links: https://www.edgardunn.com/theedcpodcast Music by dayfoxCopyright 2025 All rights reserved. Economics Management Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales Personal Finance
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  • S03 Ep10: Overview of EDC's 18th Advanced Payments & Fintech Report
    Dec 1 2025

    Each year, our Advanced Payments and Fintech Report provides a comprehensive view of the latest trends defining the payments landscape. Now in its 18th edition, the report examines 14 themes across four domains, highlighting how innovation, evolving business models, and shifting consumer expectations are driving rapid industry change. In 2025, AI, digital identity, embedded finance, and emerging infrastructure are shaping how money moves, how businesses operate, and how consumers interact with financial services.

    In this episode of the EDC Podcast, host Davide sits down with Tue To, head of Edgar, Dunn & Company’s Fintech practice, to explore the 18th edition of the Advanced Payments and Fintech Report. They dive into the trends reshaping payments and fintech, from AI-driven orchestration and agentic AI to subscription BNPL, connected car payments, and embedded finance. Tue explains how these innovations are making payments faster, smarter, and more seamless, and why consumer trust and convenience are now essential for business success.

    They also unpack the big numbers behind these trends, including $6 trillion in retail stablecoin transactions and the $5.7 trillion SME financing gap, and what these mean for businesses and consumers. Tue shares how AI, biometrics, and digital IDs are transforming onboarding and fraud prevention, why collaboration between fintechs and banks is key, and how payments are evolving from a back-office utility into a strategic growth engine. Tune in for a forward-looking conversation on the future of payments and the trends shaping 2026.

    In this episode:

    • How AI is turning payment systems into smart, self-optimizing tools
    • Why agentic AI, BNPL, and connected car payments are no longer just experiments
    • How biometrics and digital IDs are making onboarding faster and safer
    • Why fintechs and banks need to collaborate or risk falling behind
    • The growing role of stablecoins and digital currencies in everyday payments
    • Trust and convenience are now make-or-break for businesses​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

    Resources:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tue-to-541a214

    Website: http://www.edgardunn.com/

    Report: https://www.edgardunn.com/reports/advanced-payments-and-fintech-report

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    15 mins
  • S03 Ep09: The Future of Payments with Amir Wain CEO at i2C and EDC's CEO Samee Zafar : AI, Tokenization, and Beyond
    Nov 18 2025

    In this episode, Samee Zafar from Edgar, Dunn & Company speaks with Amir Wain, CEO of i2c, about the transformative role of AI in financial services and payments. They discuss the definition of agentic AI versus generative AI, its benefits for businesses, and the importance of focusing on business objectives over technology. Amir shares insights on founding i2c to address complexity in financial platforms through a single customer-centric solution. The conversation also explores practical applications such as AI-powered customer service, the significance of tokenization for agentic commerce, and the potential of digital assistants.

    Show Notes:

    In this episode, Samee Zafar of Edgar, Dunn & Company talks with Amir Wain, CEO and founder of i2c, about how AI is reshaping financial services and what businesses should actually do about it. From customer service automation to agentic commerce, Amir explains why AI is both an existential threat and a massive opportunity—and how to focus on the latter by starting with business objectives, not technology.

    They also explore how agentic AI goes beyond chatbots to take real actions, why legacy infrastructure often holds back AI implementation, and how digital assistants will change the way we shop and manage daily tasks. Amir shares how AI enables smaller players to compete with giants through 24/7 service and personalized experiences, and why tokenization is the right foundation for agentic commerce.

    Join us as we explore the evolution from generative to agentic AI, practical applications in payments and commerce, and why the dust will settle on digital assistants just like it did with mobile operating systems—with AI becoming core infrastructure rather than standalone products.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

    In this episode:

    • Why AI is both an existential threat and a great equalizer for businesses
    • How to approach AI by focusing on business objectives: differentiation and efficiency
    • The evolution from generative AI to agentic AI and the four key components
    • How AI-powered customer service enables first-call resolution and 24/7 scalability
    • The potential of digital assistants to consolidate commerce and boost productivity
    • Why legacy infrastructure holds back AI implementation in financial services
    • The role of tokenization in enabling secure agentic commerce
    • How AI democratizes data analytics and enables true personalization at scale​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

    Resources:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirwain

    Website: https://www.i2cinc.com

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    33 mins
  • S03 Ep08: Why orchestration is no longer optional, with John Lunn, CEO of Gr4vy
    Oct 21 2025

    In this episode, Davide Villa speaks with John Lunn, CEO of Gr4vy, about the transformative role of payment orchestration in the payments industry. They discuss the definition of payment orchestration, its benefits for merchants, and the importance of flexibility in payment systems. John shares insights on founding Gravy to address industry frustrations, the significance of tokenization, and the critiques surrounding payment orchestration. The conversation also explores future trends such as stable coins and agentic commerce, emphasizing the evolving role of payments in business.

    Show Notes:

    In this episode, Davide Villa of Edgar, Dunn & Company talks with John Lunn, CEO and founder of Gr4vy, about how payment orchestration is redefining the way merchants manage payments. From redundancy and scalability to tokenization and network tokens, John explains why orchestration is no longer just an optimization tool but a critical part of merchants’ infrastructure.

    They also explore how global payment rails—from Brazil’s Pix to India’s UPI—are reshaping commerce, and why orchestration enables merchants to adapt quickly, test new methods, and negotiate better terms with PSPs. John shares how orchestration eliminates single points of failure, boosts flexibility, and even turns payments into a competitive advantage.

    Join us as we explore how orchestration, new payment models, and emerging technologies like stablecoins and agentic commerce are transforming financial services worldwide.

    In this episode:

    • Why payment orchestration is becoming essential for merchants
    • How orchestration boosts redundancy, scalability, and flexibility
    • The role of tokenization and network tokens in reducing fraud and improving customer experience
    • How merchants can negotiate better PSP terms with orchestration
    • The cost savings of routing debit payments to the right networks
    • Why payments can be a competitive advantage, not just a utility
    • The rise of new payment rails like Pix, UPI, and FedNow
    • How orchestration enables merchants to test and switch payment methods quickly
    • The potential of stablecoins in remittances and high-value transactions
    • Opportunities and risks of agentic commerce powered by AI agents

    Resources:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnclunn

    Website: https://gr4vy.com

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    37 mins
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