What happens when technical excellence is no longer enough to lead?

This week on Wine After Work, Bryce is joined by Kirby Lee, Professional Engineer, third-generation HVAC construction professional, and AEC leadership expert, for a candid conversation about what leadership really requires in today's AEC industry.

With more than 23 years of experience spanning consulting engineering, owner's representation, HVAC construction, and equipment sales, Kirby brings a rare, holistic perspective on the pressures facing AEC leaders today. He shares how his engineering background — combined with decades in the field — led him to recognize a critical gap in traditional leadership development programs.

In this episode, Bryce and Kirby discuss:

• Why most leadership training fails AEC professionals
• The transition from technical expert to people leader
• How emotional intelligence shows up on real projects
• What resilient leadership looks like in an evolving AEC workforce
• Why the industry needs leadership systems designed for AEC, not borrowed from elsewhere

Kirby also shares insights from his work with ASHRAE and how service, mentorship, and intentional leadership shape stronger teams and better outcomes.

If you're an AEC professional navigating leadership, growth, or transition — this episode will resonate.