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Learning To Be Liminal

Learning To Be Liminal

Written by: Jared Howell
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Magician and fortune teller Jared Howell has spent years performing illusions about the paranormal, then the paranormal started following him offstage. He talks with psychics, magicians, paranormal investigators, and psychical researchers about the space between skepticism and belief. An exploration of how we search for meaning in the things we can’t explain.

An exploration of how we search for meaning in the things we can’t explain.


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  • Episode 3- Kristen Gandy: Paranormal Investigarot and Psychic
    Dec 16 2025

    In this episode of Learning to Be Liminal, Jared talks with paranormal investigator and BOO812 team member Kristen Gandy about psychic sensitivity, investigation ethics, and what it means to live with experiences you can’t fully explain.

    Follow Kristen on Instagram @transient_path

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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • Episode 2 - Katie Glesing - Vampires, Academy, & Deviant Leisure
    Nov 19 2025

    In this episode I sit down with Katie Jo Glesing. Katie is an academic researcher and the founder of Boo812 a non profit aimed at empowering people to do their own paranormal investigations. We talk about her start in academic research, filming a TV show with "real" vampires, and her upcoming venture into the world haunted attractions and being scared for fun.


    Note: We mention "The Mediums" which is a hybrid show I did with Boo812 where I recreated a Victorian Seance in a truly haunted location and then we followed up with a full overnight investigation.


    Follow Katie:

    boo812.org

    Instagram: kajogles


    Transcript at: https://jaredhowellmagic.com/ltltranscripts/episode2

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    1 hr and 35 mins
  • Episode 1: Courtney Block
    Nov 5 2025

    Episode Description

    In this episode, I sit down with librarian and author Courtney Block to talk about how she found her way into the paranormal, what drew her into academic research, and why libraries end up being unexpected hubs for weird stories. We get into the comfort people find in the paranormal, how our religious backgrounds shape what we believe, and why citizen science matters more than people think.

    About the Show

    Learning to Be Liminal is a podcast about belief, doubt, and the weird in-between.

    Connect with the show:

    Website: https://learningtobeliminal.com

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    1 hr and 22 mins
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