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Leo Pareja Unfiltered

Leo Pareja Unfiltered

Written by: eXp Media
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Welcome to Pareja Unfiltered, where host Leo Pareja explores what it takes to lead, grow, and win. Leo built companies and led tens of thousands of agents as CEO of eXp Realty (NASDAQ: EXPI). He's learned the difference between good and great isn't what you know—it's how you think, adapt, and inspire others. Real strategies for real leaders, featuring CEOs, founders, and game-changers who've been in the trenches. This is podcast for leaders ready to stop playing small and start playing to win.2025 eXp Media Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
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  • Byron Lazine: He Went Bankrupt, Couldn't Buy an Ad, and Built Real Estate's Biggest Media Company
    Mar 3 2026

    ➡️ Access ALL FREE business resources, episode blueprints, and exclusive content from past episodes: https://stan.store/leopareja

    Byron Lazine built a media empire starting from bankruptcy — no budget, no audience, no choice but to figure out what everyone else was ignoring. Leo sits down with the co-founder of BAM to break down why distribution beats skill, what 15 years of building in public actually costs, and the uncomfortable truth about agents who post versus agents who actually build. Byron also gets into what live content is going to dominate in 2026, the backdoor narratives still controlling the real estate industry, and the two paths forward for anyone scared to put themselves out there.

    ➡️ Timestamps

    00:00 The Bankrupt Agent Who Couldn't Buy an Ad and Built a Media Empire Instead
    01:17 When Byron Realized Distribution Mattered More Than Skill
    03:06 The Facebook Live That Changed Everything (A Builder, 9 Homes, and Zero Foot Traffic)
    04:31 What That Version of Byron Got Dead Wrong About Success
    05:22 The Real Cost of Building in Public for 15 Years
    06:41 Why Chasing Trends Is the Slowest Path to Consistency
    07:44 The Deleted Podcast, the Stop Zillow Debate, and the First Real Inflection Point
    13:00 How BAM Was Born and Why the Industry Needed a Media Company, Not Another Blog
    17:45 The Difference Between Agents Who Build Audiences and Agents Who Just Post
    24:30 Why Byron Wouldn't Post on Social If It Wasn't for Business
    30:15 Raw Content, Live Format, and What's Going to Crush in 2026
    37:34 The Emerging Trend Most Agents Are Completely Sleeping On
    39:52 Live Content for Listings: Why Zoning Meetings Are Goldmines Nobody Is Mining
    42:05 Cringe Mountain and the Two-to-Four Year Grind Nobody Talks About
    44:06 Grind It Alone or Latch On — Byron's Closing Advice for Anyone Scared to Build in Public

    ➡️ Connect With Leo Pareja

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/leopareja/
    Instagram: https://instagram.com/leopareja/
    Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@leo.pareja

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    45 mins
  • Neil Patel: SEO Is Dead — Here's What's Actually Driving Revenue Now
    Feb 20 2026

    ➡️ Access ALL FREE business resources, episode blueprints, and exclusive content from past episodes: https://stan.store/leopareja

    Most marketers are spending money on SEO that was never going to drive revenue anyway and Neil Patel is the first to admit it. Leo sits down with one of the most recognized names in digital marketing to break down why informational SEO is collapsing, how LLMs are rewriting the rules of visibility, and what actually drives revenue in a world where ChatGPT answers the question before anyone clicks your link. Neil also gets brutally honest about losing clients for telling the truth, burning millions on a cloud computing bet before AWS existed, and the hard lesson every founder eventually learns: drinking your own Kool-Aid is necessary until it isn't.

    ➡️ Timestamps

    00:00 Why Informational SEO Is Dead (And Was Never Driving Revenue Anyway)
    00:55 How LLMs Are Replacing Google and What to Do About It
    02:10 The Exact Strategy to Get Mentioned by ChatGPT and Gemini
    04:45 Personal Brand vs. Corporate Brand, Which One to Build First
    07:30 Why AI Slop Is Flooding the Internet and How to Stand Out
    10:20 The Coca-Cola AI Ad Backlash and What It Tells Us About Human Content
    13:00 Neil's 2008 Collapse and the Three-Year Grind That Followed
    17:45 Burning Millions on Cloud Computing Before AWS Existed
    21:00 The Investor Who Hired His Girlfriend and Gave Her $50K for a Logo
    24:30 Don't Drink Your Own Kool-Aid, Hire People Who've Already Made the Mistakes
    27:00 Why Boring, Ugly Businesses Make the Most Money
    30:15 When to Expand vs. When You're Just Adding Feature Creep
    33:40 The Zero-to-One Founder vs. The Scale Operator, Know Which One You Are
    36:00 Quality Time Over Quantity, How Neil Thinks About Family and the Grind

    ➡️ Connect With Leo Pareja

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/leopareja/
    Instagram: https://instagram.com/leopareja/
    Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@leo.pareja

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    40 mins
  • Focus Is a Superpower: How to Know When to Quit or Keep Going
    Feb 13 2026

    ➡️ Access ALL FREE business resources, episode blueprints, and exclusive content from past episodes: https://stan.store/leopareja

    Most entrepreneurs don't fail because their product is bad—they fail because they try to do everything and slowly become forgettable. Leo breaks down why hyper-focus is a superpower, how to audit where your marketing dollars actually go, and the hardest question in entrepreneurship: when to keep watering the seedling versus when you're pounding solid concrete on a bad idea. He also shares what marquee capital allocators told him they actually look for in founders—and it's not first-time winners.

    ➡️ Timestamps

    00:00 The Feature Creep Trap That Kills Businesses
    00:45 Why the Best Brands in the World Are Hyper-Focused
    01:20 The Framework: Audit Your Marketing Spend Ruthlessly
    02:10 Saying No to Good Ideas Is Mandatory, Not Optional
    02:55 The Duality of Never Quit vs. Knowing When to Walk Away
    03:40 Watering a Seedling vs. Pounding Solid Concrete
    04:25 The Sunk Cost Fallacy Will Destroy Your Business
    05:00 Separate Your Identity from Your Business
    05:40 Feedback Loops: Trust Your Gut, Filter External Advice
    06:20 Why You Should Start as a Side Hustle First
    07:00 Having Hard Conversations with Investors and Employees
    07:45 Failure Is a Superpower: What $48M in Fundraising Taught Me
    08:30 What Marquee Investors Actually Look for in Founders
    09:10 Ask Yourself Why—And Be Honest About the Answer

    ➡️ Connect With Leo Pareja

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/leopareja/
    Instagram: https://instagram.com/leopareja/
    Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@leo.pareja

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    11 mins
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