In this conversation, Chris Swanson, a sheriff from Flint, Michigan, discusses his journey into law enforcement, his vision for running for governor, and the importance of community trust in law enforcement. He outlines his policy platforms focused on protection, service, and unity, addressing socioeconomic issues, affordable housing, and healthcare. Swanson emphasizes the need for accountability in law enforcement and the importance of connecting with the community. He shares personal anecdotes, including how he met his wife in jail, and stresses the need for a different kind of leadership in Michigan.

In this episode, Mike Madrid, co-founder of the Lincoln Project, joins the discussion to explore the evolution of political ideologies from the Reagan era to the Trump administration. The conversation delves into the challenges faced by traditional conservatives, the impact of populism, and the shifting dynamics within the Republican Party.

In this episode, Mike Madrid, co-founder of the Lincoln Project, joins the discussion to explore the evolution of political ideologies from the Reagan era to the Trump administration. The conversation delves into the challenges faced by traditional conservatives, the impact of populism, and the shifting dynamics within the Republican Party.