What does it take to walk away from a life that looks perfect on paper… to build one that feels truly aligned?

In this episode, Sylvana is joined by Martina Thurnher: a purpose-driven entrepreneur who left behind a stable career, a marriage, and a beautiful garden apartment in Austria to start over in Morocco.

Guided by a deep sense of inner knowing (and a surprising love for surfing), Martina shares the real story behind her radical life shift, and how it led her to create a life rooted in intention, community, and impact.

Together, we explore:

✨ How to trust your gut when it's telling you to leap—even if it doesn't make logical sense
🌊 The unexpected role surfing played in revealing Martina's desired life
🌍 What it's like to build a values-led business in a new cultural landscape
🌱 The unlearning required when bringing sustainability and systems thinking to a VERY different local context
💛 The beauty of cross-cultural community, and how "flipping thoughts" has become her superpower

Martina now lives and works in coastal Morocco, where she helps small and mid-sized businesses grow sustainably, hosts the Impact Lab podcast, and leads grassroots initiatives like composting circles and beach cleanups.

This conversation is for anyone who's felt the quiet nudge to change direction—and is ready to finally listen.

How to connect with Martina:

Website: https://martinathurnher.com/

Impact Lab podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-impact-lab/id1765866442

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martina-thurnher/

If you've ever felt like you're between chapters — not quite who you used to be, and not yet who you're becoming — this conversation is your compass. From career leaps to global relocations to the rise of AI, this episode is all about how we move through transition with clarity, courage, and yes… a little brio.

Sylvana sits down with Juliana Naranjo Pereira — community architect, cultural change leader, and former Global CMO who's spent the last two decades building belonging inside some of the world's most iconic brands. A native New Yorker raised across cultures, Juliana blends her Colombian and Portuguese heritage with a rich professional journey that's spanned the U.S. and 18 years in Spain — from luxury fashion and hospitality to tech and education.

Tune in for:

• How to navigate identity when you're always evolving

• What it takes to create belonging — not just for others, but for yourself

• A soulful take on AI and how to stay grounded (and human) in an age of rapid change

This one's for the reinventors, the bridge-builders, and anyone craving a life that feels as aligned on the inside as it looks on the outside.

Connect with Juliana:

Website: https://juliananaranjopereira.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliananpereira/
TEDx Talk: How to Build Meaningful Community — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1KR-lmraOo

What if inclusion wasn't a corporate program or a half-hearted policy​—but the beating heart of every decision you make? In this intimate and candid conversation, leadership coach Sylvana Rochet sits down with Natalie Alberta Dusey, co-founder and Global Chief of Staff at the independent agency collective Meet the People.

Natalie traces the single off-site invitation that propelled her from a safe, established role into co-founding a fast-growing, people-first holding company that now spans a dozen agencies across North America and Europe.

This conversation explores why most organizations unintentionally sabotage their diversity efforts, how to keep hope alive during today's DEI backlash, and why empathy-driven rituals (whether a dawn walk or a candid team survey) can transform both business results and everyday life. If you're tired of "performative inclusion" and ready for practical, soul-level change, this episode is your permission slip to stop ticking boxes and start building space that was never meant to be exclusive at all.

1. The Power of One "YES."
   Natalie's story shows how a single courageous decision can launch an entire movement—and why risk often looks smaller in the rear-view mirror.

2. DEI Dies in Silos.
   When diversity work gets dumped on HR or an isolated task force, it turns into paperwork. Embed inclusion into every role, from interns to the boardroom, or watch momentum evaporate.

3. Talk—Especially When It's Uncomfortable.
   Silence fuels the backlash. Honest, cross-level dialogue is the most underrated tool for turning resistance into renewed purpose.

• Meet the People – https://meet-the-people.com/

• Connect with Natalie on LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/nataliealbertadusey

• Follow @duseynatalie on Instagram

• Books mentioned

• • The Person You Mean to Be — Dolly Chugh

  • The Courage to Be Disliked — Ichiro Kishimi & Fumitake Koga

  • The Power of Intention — Dr. Wayne Dyer