In honour of Black History Month, Ces and Lee reflect on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s timeless reminder: “We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope.”
What unfolds is tender, honest, and unexpectedly uplifting.
The episode begins in a place many of us recognize — weary, overwhelmed, quietly questioning what “infinite hope” can possibly mean in the midst of seemingly unrelenting struggles.
For Ces, it is the memory of a muddy walk in Cambodia, Birkenstocks caked in clay. Children laughing as they wash in a river. In that simple, human moment — joy rising from hardship — hope reveals itself not as grand or abstract, but alive and embodied.
Lee’s reflection lifts the lens wider. Hope becomes a banner held high through despair. A nation wrapped in love, freedom, and equality. Drawing on Dr. King’s enduring perseverance, Lee imagines hope strong enough to outlast the “sentinels of despair” and steady enough to guide us forward.
Together, they reflect on how the writing practice itself surprised them — how, even in exhaustion, more words came. More truth surfaced. They speak candidly about aging, about diminished energy, about the heartbreak of seeing hard-won rights challenged or rolled back. And yet, beneath it all, there is resolve: to redefine their roles within communities that stand for democracy and human dignity. To use creative practice as a way to hold frustration and conviction in the same breath.
This episode is a gentle companion for those feeling tired but unwilling to give up, to always carry the hope for a better tomorrow as Dr. King did.
00:08 Intro to Liminal Writing process and the inspiration from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
00:44 Ces’ Writing
02:45 Lee’s Writing
03:51 Debrief: Where the Writing Landed (The Other Side Is Better)
05:08 Storytime: Muddy Roads, Birkenstocks & Kids in the River
06:27 Aging, Activism & Pushback: Redefining Our Roles Now
08:12 Closing Thoughts: Creative Writing as a Way to Hold on to Hope
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