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Living in Color: Love, Life & Everything in Between

Living in Color: Love, Life & Everything in Between

Written by: Tammy Fisher & Norman Lloyd
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 Living In Color: Love, Life & Everything In Between is a dynamic podcast hosted by married interracial couple—Tammy Fisher and Norman Lloyd. Both are seasoned therapists with a passion for helping others navigate life, love, and relationships through an inclusive lens. Tammy specializes in monogamous and non-monogamous relationships, sexual health, and helping individuals and couples break through barriers to intimacy. Norman, a retired Army veteran, focuses on relationships, personal growth, and the unique challenges associated with military life and transitioning to civilian life. Together, they integrate their personal and professional experiences, balancing masculine and feminine energies, navigating blended families, and exploring cultural perspectives. Their goal is to offer listeners relatable insights, practical advice, and authentic stories to help individuals and couples thrive—whether it's exploring sexual health, strengthening relationships, managing family dynamics, or finding life's purpose. Tune in for candid conversations, expert interviews, and inspiring stories that illustrate how love, life, and connection are best experienced in full color. Hosts: Tammy Fisher, MA, Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Supervisor, Certified Sex Therapist: Tammy loves taking pictures to capture the everyday beauty of life and enjoys hosting workshops about strengthening relationships, igniting the erotic, exploring kink, race attraction, and embodying the divine feminine power. Her research interests include interracial relationships, sexuality, and empowering couples and individuals. Norman Lloyd, MA, Licensed Professional Counselor, Retired Army Veteran: Norman is an avid Star Trek enthusiast and enjoys public speaking and hosting workshops on PTSD, depression, transitioning to civilian life, authentic masculinity through the lens of a person of color, and the history of race attraction. He is dedicated to exploring and supporting interracial relationships, mental health, and helping veterans adjust after military service. Tammy & Norman love traveling, hiking, sharing their enthusiasm for tea, doting on their dog, Ziggy, and connecting deeply through their shared passion for public speaking, workshops, and research. If you would like Tammy and Norman to speak at your event or host a workshop, contact them at: https://www.livingincolor.com/2026 Hygiene & Healthy Living Relationships Social Sciences
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  • 2: Redefining Romance: Intentional Connection, Love Languages, and What Makes It Land

    2: Redefining Romance: Intentional Connection, Love Languages, and What Makes It Land
    Feb 14 2026
    Redefining Romance: Intentional Connection, Love Languages, and What Makes It Land Tammy and Norman, therapists and a married couple, discuss what romance means, why it is a loaded and individualized concept, and how couples often miss each other when they are speaking different "romantic languages." They focus on American cultural influences on romance (movies, social media, Valentine's Day, gender norms) and challenge myths about grand gestures, effortlessness, and romance fading over time. They share examples of differing romantic expectations, including Norman learning early that romance meant spending money and Tammy's family experience of gift-giving, and they describe a time when a romantic gesture didn't land due to emotional disconnection during a rough spot around their one-year mark. They distinguish love (commitment and care), connection (emotional presence), and romance (intentional expression of desire, affection, and priority), emphasizing that romance is a practice rather than proof of love and requires communication. They explore how romance changes after new relationship energy and how life stressors, work, kids, and trauma can affect romance; romance doesn't need to be constant but should be intentional and consistent, like "oil" in a relationship. They outline common expressions of romance—quality time, physical touch, sexual energy without comparison or a universal "normal," acts of service (e.g., making breakfast), emotional safety and vulnerability, playfulness (including board games), and consistency. They briefly address neurodivergence and trauma triggers (e.g., hugging from behind) as reasons romantic gestures may be misread, recommending curiosity and conversation rather than taking it personally. They offer three partner questions: what makes you feel desired, what kills romance for you, and what the other person does that makes you feel special, and close by encouraging listeners to define romance for themselves as intentional and attuned rather than expensive or dramatic. 00:51 Why Romance Feels So Loaded (and Not Universal) 01:20 Where Our Romance Scripts Come From: Movies, Social Media & Valentine's Day 02:13 Myths & Mismatched "Romantic Languages" (Plus the Carved Spoon Story) 03:42 What Romance Means to Us: Family Influence & Early Lessons 06:41 Gender Expectations: Gifts, Thoughtfulness… and Lingerie? 09:28 When Romance Falls Flat: Timing, Disconnection & Different Headspaces 13:39 Love vs Connection vs Romance (and Why Communication Is the Fix) 17:15 Practical Example: Asking for What You Want (Touch & Guidance) 18:08 How Romance Changes Over Time: New Relationship Energy (NRE) 18:27 Why Romance Fades in Long-Term Relationships (Stress, Kids, Work) 20:02 Romance = Intention: Scheduling "Sacred Time" & Recreating Early Effort 22:24 Is Your Relationship Worth the Effort? The New-Relationship-Energy Trap 23:33 When Romance Is Absent: Disconnection, Resentment & the Vicious Cycle 24:17 Romance Isn't Constant: The "Oil in the Engine" Metaphor 25:38 The Nitty-Gritty: What Romance Looks Like (Quality Time, Touch, Gifts) 26:37 Sexual Energy Over Time: Find Your Normal (No Comparing) 28:47 Acts of Service & Emotional Safety: Vulnerability Needs Trust 30:26 Playfulness & Consistency: Keeping Romance from Feeling Performative 33:11 Neurodivergence & Trauma: When "Romantic" Gestures Land Wrong 35:47 3 Questions to Ask Your Partner + Closing Reflections on Redefining Romance
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    41 mins
  • Can Love Survive The Differences?

    Can Love Survive The Differences?
    Feb 11 2026
    Navigating Relationship Challenges: Love, Difference, and Attachment Styles In this episode of 'Living in Color,' hosts Tammy and Norman discuss the complexities of relationships, focusing on how love can survive differences. They share personal anecdotes from their early relationship, detailing how they met on Bumble and their initial 'honeymoon phase.' The discussion delves into the challenges they faced, including differing expectations, the impact of becoming a blended family, and evolving their relationship dynamics. They explore attachment styles, specifically anxious and avoidant attachments, and the importance of communication, empathy, and understanding each other's needs. Tammy and Norman provide practical tips for couples to navigate relationship hurdles, emphasizing the significance of assuming good intent, setting boundaries, and staying curious about each other's feelings. Their goal is to support listeners in transforming their 'beautiful mess' into a harmonious partnership. 00:00 Introduction: Welcome to Living in Color 00:12 Can Love Survive Differences? 00:27 Our Magical Beginning 01:19 Meeting on Bumble 04:34 The Honeymoon Phase 07:40 Challenges and Changes 10:57 Attachment Styles and Relationship Dynamics 21:40 Communication and Boundaries 27:15 Practical Tips for Healthy Relationships 31:07 Conclusion: Real Couples, Real Challenges

    If you've ever wondered whether love can survive clashing needs, different relationship blueprints, or life transitions that shake your foundation—this conversation is for you.

    🌈 Living in Color: Love, Life & Everything in Between is about the messy, meaningful work of connection—and learning to stay in it, together.

    If you want to learn more about your own Attachment Style, Tammy (aka The Pleasure Principal) has created a guide just for you. Get it Here!
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    32 mins
  • Introduction

    Introduction
    Feb 11 2026
    Welcome to Living in Color

    Before we dive into love, attachment, conflict, intimacy, and everything in between—we wanted to start here.

    In this introduction episode of Living in Color: Love, Life & Everything in Between, we share who we are, why we created this podcast, and what you can expect from the conversations ahead.

    We're Tammy Fisher and Norman Lloyd—married therapists, an interracial couple, parents, and lifelong students of relationships. Between us, we bring experience in couples therapy, sexual health, military life, trauma, blended families, and the very real work of navigating differences inside a relationship.

    But this podcast isn't just professional.

    It's personal.

    We've wrestled with different attachment styles, conflicting expectations, family transitions, and the tension between closeness and autonomy. We know what it's like to love deeply and still struggle.

    Living in Color is our space to talk about relationships honestly—without oversimplifying, shaming, or pretending it's easy.

    In this episode, we'll share:

    • Why we believe love isn't lived in black and white

    • How our differences shaped this podcast

    • What "Living in Color" really means

    • Who this show is for

    If you've ever felt like love is beautiful and complicated at the same time—you're in the right place.

    Start here. Then join us for Episode 1: Can Love Survive the Differences?

    🌈 Connect With Us

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    👉 Visionaries of Living In Color

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    👉 @visionariesoflivingincolor

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    And don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss what's next.
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    3 mins
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