Episodes

  • Love Is Legacy: Impact, Partnership, and Going the Distance with The Leonards

    Love Is Legacy: Impact, Partnership, and Going the Distance with The Leonards
    Jul 2 2026
    What happens when one spouse steps away from a successful career and both partners have to redefine what it means to contribute?

    In this episode of Loving Me, Loving You, Loving Us, Memi and Dr. Lara sit down with Jerome and Kelly to explore the intersection of marriage, identity, finances, communication, and teamwork. After a unified decision for Kelly to leave her corporate career to provide more intentional care to their kids, the Leonards found themselves navigating shifting roles, financial pressure, unmet expectations, and the emotional weight of building a life together.

    Together, they reveal how honest conversations, intentional rhythms, and a shared commitment to growth transformed one of the hardest seasons of their marriage into the foundation of their ministry to other couples.

    In this episode, you’ll discover:
    • How to separate your identity from your career
    • Why financial provision is only one part of building a thriving marriage
    • The difference between accountability that strengthens your spouse and pressure that pushes them away
    • Practical communication strategies for navigating financial stress and shifting family roles
    • How weekly marriage check-ins can improve communication, connection, and teamwork
    • What it truly means to become co-pilots in marriage instead of keeping score
    • How faith, financial stewardship, and shared vision create a lasting legacy

    Whether you’re navigating career transitions, financial challenges, stay-at-home parenting, entrepreneurship, or simply learning how to support each other through life’s changing seasons, this conversation offers practical wisdom and hope for building a marriage that thrives through every transition.
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    Jerome and Kelly Leonard are partners in life, legacy, and leadership. Married for over twenty‑five years, they’ve built a relationship grounded in faith, laughter, and intentional growth. They’ve navigated the highs and lows of marriage, parenting, entrepreneurship, and purpose‑driven living anchored in love, respect, and shared vision.

    As SYMBIS‑certified marriage coaches, Jerome and Kelly help couples strengthen their foundations through a research‑based, spiritually grounded approach to lifelong partnership.

    Jerome is a seasoned cyber technologist and entrepreneur whose calm strength and strategic insight shape both his work and family life. Kelly is a CPA (inactive), executive coach, and fractional business strategy advisor with more than 30 years of cross‑sector experience, and the creator of the B.O.O.S.T.® framework, which helps entrepreneurs and ecosystem builders turn complexity into clarity.

    Active mentors in their church and community, Jerome and Kelly model what it means to love deeply, lead boldly, and build together. Their shared passion for legacy‑building, economic mobility, and thriving relationships fuels both their work and their marriage.
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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • Love is Safety: Vulnerability, Healing, and Finding Your Way Back with The Smiths

    Love is Safety: Vulnerability, Healing, and Finding Your Way Back with The Smiths
    Jun 18 2026
    **DISCLAIMER** This episode includes a candid discussion of suicide and mental health struggles. If you or someone you know is struggling, help is available 24/7. Call or text 988 (Suicide and Crisis Lifeline) for support.

    What does it look like when the person who is your safe space is the same one you almost lost? Marcus and Allison Smith sit down with Memi and Dr. Lara to share a love story that began at a college campus and grew through NFL pressure, family tension, mental health battles, and a moment that changed everything. Marcus, a 1st round draft pick and 6-year NFL veteran turned ministernand aspiring licensed clinical social worker, opens up about the anxiety, depression, and PTSD he didn't have words for until Allison helped him find them. Allison, a midwife and women's health nurse practitioner, shares what it really costs to love someone through their becoming and helping to see the world without blinders.

    This is one of the most raw and honest conversations about marriage and mental health, loving a partner through crisis, and what healing in marriage actually looks like in real time.

    In this conversation, you'll discover:
    • Why cutting off access and putting up boundaries is sometimes the most powerful move in a relationship
    • How to love a partner who was never taught what healthy love looks like
    • What happens when a provider mindset covers up unaddressed trauma
    • Why therapy changed the trajectory of their entire family, not just their marriage
    • How sticking through "the noise" (family conflict, career upheaval, mental health crises) becomes the foundation of a lasting bond

    Whether you're newly married, years in, or still figuring out how to love yourself first, Marcus and Allison's story will meet you where you are.

    CHAPTERS
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    00:00 Episode Intro
    01:14 Meet Marcus & Allison Smith
    05:00 Icebreaker: Forgiveness & Growth
    08:27 How They Met at Penn Relays
    18:32 The Friend Zone & the Three-Day Silence
    26:40 Day Four: Marcus Makes His Move
    32:05 Navigating Family Tensions & Blinders
    47:10 NFL Life, Sacrifice & Being Traded
    56:30 Marcus's Mental Health Crisis & Walking Away from Football
    65:30 Therapy, Healing & Diagnosis
    70:05 What Their Marriage Represents
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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • Love is Believing: Growth, Partnership, and Building Potential with The Idikas

    Love is Believing: Growth, Partnership, and Building Potential with The Idikas
    Apr 30 2026
    What happens when the person you love sees your potential before you do? In this episode of Loving Me, Loving You, Loving Us, we sit down with Nnamdi and Ugochi for an honest conversation about what it looks like to love someone through growth, failure, faith, and becoming. Their love story was not picture-perfect. It included failed dreams, a rocky period of dating, understanding emotional differences, boundary issues, and spiritual misalignment. But through it all, they chose to believe in each other’s potential even before the other could fully see it themselves.

    In this episode, we explore:
    • What it means to love someone through failure and self-doubt
    • Navigating opposite love languages and intimacy mismatch in marriage
    • Evaluating boundaries to disarm tension in their relationship
    • Being unequally yoked and growing spiritually together in marriage
    • Grinding hard after setbacks while building a marriage
    • The routines, systems, and boundaries keeping their marriage strong after 12 years
    • Why they are committed to raising children with honesty over perfection
    This episode is for the couple doing the work behind the scenes. The couple building while healing.
    The couple choosing each other even when the journey is not glamorous. Because sometimes love is believing in who your partner can become.

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    0:00 Intro – Welcome to Loving Me, Loving You Loving Us
    0:40 Meet Ugochi & Nnamdi: Nurses, Parents, Purpose-Driven Partners
    4:12 Icebreaker: Love Languages and Legacy Goals
    6:43 How They Met: A Facebook Party, a Dance Floor, and Destiny
    15:00 The Off-and-On Relationship Era and the Honesty Box That Saved Them
    22:13 How Nnamdi Convinced Ugochi She Was Smart Enough to Succeed
    25:55 From LPN to Master's Degree Together: The Ultimate Partnership
    27:25 Raising Kids with Honesty: Breaking the Cycle of Parenting Trauma
    29:48 Boundaries in Marriage: The Work Husband Problem and How They Fixed It
    35:22 Intimacy Mismatch: When You and Your Spouse Have Different Love Languages
    41:35 Faith, Marriage, and Being Unequally Yoked: Their Real Journey
    47:36 How Nnamdi Found God: From Survival Mode to Leading Family Prayer
    51:53 What 12 Years of Marriage Actually Teaches You About Love and Hard Work
    56:46 Marriage as Legacy: Raising Kids Who Know Their Purpose
    1:00:44 From Nurse to County Executive: When Your Spouse Believes in You First
    1:07:00 Final Thoughts and Takeaways
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Love is Suffering Well: Faith, Marriage and Parenting Through Life’s Hardest Trials with The Grays

    Love is Suffering Well: Faith, Marriage and Parenting Through Life’s Hardest Trials with The Grays
    Apr 16 2026
    In this deeply moving episode of Loving Me, Loving You, Loving Us, we sit down with Devin and Ashley Gray to share their powerful story of love, faith, and endurance through life’s hardest seasons.

    From 'Honesty Box' messages (IYKYK) to pivotal make or break moments before marriage, their journey was already layered. But early into marriage, everything changed. Devin was diagnosed with Crohn’s disease while Ashley navigated entering motherhood, forcing them to quickly learn what it means to love through uncertainty.

    What followed was a series of trials that would test any marriage. Job loss. A surprise twin pregnancy. A high-risk diagnosis. Multiple surgeries. Moments where faith was stretched and supernatural strength was required daily.

    In this episode, we explore:
    • Choosing love after breakups and uncertainty
    • Navigating chronic illness in marriage
    • Parenting through high-risk pregnancy and medical challenges
    • Recognizing burnout and supporting your spouse in hard seasons
    • Holding onto faith when healing has not yet come
    • What it truly means to suffer well in marriage
    This conversation is for anyone walking through a difficult season, whether it is health challenges, parenting stress, or emotional exhaustion. It is a reminder that love is not just about joy and celebration, but endurance, commitment, and showing up when life gets hard. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
    Chapters
    00:00 — Intro
    00:55 — Welcome to Loving Me, Loving You, Loving Us + Meet the Grays
    03:30 — Icebreaker: Let's Get Deep with 101 Chats to Reach the Peak - Married Edition
    07:06 — How They Met: Fur Boots, a Worship Rehearsal & an Attitude
    12:00 — MySpace Message, the Honesty Box & How Love Actually Started
    15:00 — Courtship, Piano Lessons at the Church & Learning Each Other
    21:00 — The Dating Tests: Two Breakups and the "Career or Me" Ultimatum
    29:00 — The Proposal Story (It Did Not Go According to Plan)
    36:30 — Going Into Year One: The Decision They Made Before They Got Married
    38:30 — Six Months In: Crohn's Disease, a New Baby & Unemployed
    42:14 — Keeping the Yes When God Is Saying Not Yet: Faith Through Illness
    46:55 — The Wave of Peace: How They Saw Each Other During the Calm
    51:00 — The Grinding Problem Returns: When Success Becomes Its Own Valley
    55:00 — News They Weren't Expecting: Finding Out About the Twins
    1:01:09 — The Twin Pregnancy: IUGR, High-Risk Specialists & Doing It Alone
    1:05:00 — Seven Surgeries: The Deepest Valley of Their Marriage
    1:09:20 — The Pandemic, the Church & Watching Ashley Run on Empty
    1:14:00 — What Would You Say to the Couple Who Is Ready to Quit?
    1:17:10 — Learning to Suffer Well: Processing the Trauma of the Journey
    1:20:00 — Be Patient With Who Your Spouse Is Still Becoming
    1:24:00 — What Does It Mean to Suffer Well? The Grays' Marriage Tagline ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
    ABOUT THE GRAYS:
    Devin Gray is a marketing director for a federal government agency, Director of Creative Communications at The Well Church in the DMV, and a true worshipper. Ashley Gray is a business strategist, owner of a luxury cake boutique, Elle & Emma's, and worship leader. Together they are parents to four boys, Aiden, Adrian, Ace, and Avery and a living testimony to what it means to endure well.

    Connect with the Grays on Socials:
    @devinhopegray
    @theashleymariegray
    @elleandemmas
    @gatherworshipnights
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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • Love is Scalable: Building a Thriving Marriage, Business, and Vision Together with The Djontus

    Love is Scalable: Building a Thriving Marriage, Business, and Vision Together with The Djontus
    Mar 5 2026
    In this episode of Loving Me, Loving You, Loving Us, we sit down with husband and wife duo Miguel and Mia Djontu to explore what it means to build a marriage that grows alongside ambition, purpose, and business.

    From the importance of being equally yoked to the role of communication, therapy, and mentorship, Miguel and Mia share how intentional relationship work has strengthened both their partnership and their individual pursuits. They also open up about navigating ambition within marriage, supporting each other’s vision, and ensuring that success never comes at the expense of connection.

    This conversation challenges the idea that love and ambition compete. Instead, Miguel and Mia show how love can expand, evolve, and scale alongside purpose, faith, and growth.

    If you’ve ever wondered how couples can build strong marriages while pursuing big goals, this episode offers honest insight, practical wisdom, and encouragement for the journey.


    Miguel and Gia Djontu are entrepreneurs and the co-owners of Djontu Capital Group, a family-owned holding company with a growing portfolio across multiple industries. Their umbrella includes a real estate investment company, coaching and education brands, Fresh Leaf Commercial Cleaning, and creative ventures such as Mesus Studios (a luxury, editorial wedding photography brand) and MS Studios (a rentable creative studio space).

    Miguel, born in Cameroon and raised in Prince George’s County, Maryland, is a creative director, business coach, and real estate investor who helps entrepreneurs build premium brands and scalable systems. Gia, born and raised in Prince George’s County with Sierra Leonean roots, is a sales strategist who empowers women to find their voice—strengthening their confidence, communication, and ability to sell with integrity.

    Together, Miguel and Gia are passionate about helping couples and individuals walk in purpose, activate their gifts, and build a legacy rooted in faith, family, and impact.

    Keep up with them on social media at:

    @mesus.studios | @houseofdjontus | @thesegirlscanyap
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    1 hr and 11 mins
  • Love Is Restoration: Rebuilding Trust, Healing Wounds & Strengthening Purpose with The Anthony's

    Love Is Restoration: Rebuilding Trust, Healing Wounds & Strengthening Purpose with The Anthony's
    Feb 19 2026
    In this powerful episode of Loving Me, Loving You, Loving Us, we sit down with The Anthonys to explore what it truly means to experience restoration in marriage. Love isn’t always picture-perfect. Sometimes it’s rebuilding trust after disappointment. Sometimes it’s choosing forgiveness when it’s hard. And sometimes it’s fighting for healing when walking away feels easier.

    In this conversation, we unpack:
    • What marriage restoration really looks like in real life
    • Rebuilding emotional connection after hurt
    • The role of faith in healing broken seasons
    • Choosing commitment when feelings fluctuate
    • How restoration strengthens your legacy as a couple

    If you’ve ever felt disconnected, discouraged, or unsure how to move forward in your relationship, this episode offers hope, practical wisdom, and a reminder that restoration is possible.

    Because love can be renewed.
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Love is a Healing Journey: Perseverance, Recovery & Faith that Restores with The Fugetts

    Love is a Healing Journey: Perseverance, Recovery & Faith that Restores with The Fugetts
    Feb 3 2026
    In this episode of Loving Me, Loving You, Loving Us, hosts Dr. Lara and Memi sit down with Selah and Russell Fugett for a powerful conversation on what it truly means to love through healing. From navigating alcohol recovery and emotional trauma, to the nuances of interracial marriage, to building a Kingdom-centered legacy, this episode dives deep into what it means to have a strong foundation to stay committed to yourself, to your partner, and to your legacy.

    We explore:
    • The role of faith in addiction recovery and emotional restoration
    • How love can truly be color blind
    • Why legacy isn't just what you leave behind, but what you live out daily
    • What a Kingdom marriage really looks like when no one is watching
    • How not giving up on love means choosing healing over perfection
    If you’ve ever felt like your love story has hit a wall or if you’re searching for hope in the hard parts, this one’s for you.

    🎧 Tune in and be reminded that love is messy, healing, but always worth it.
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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • Love Isn't Couples Goals: Fun, Alignment, and Advocacy with Drs. Tony and Shay

    Love Isn't Couples Goals: Fun, Alignment, and Advocacy with Drs. Tony and Shay
    Sep 15 2025
    In this powerful episode of Loving Me Loving You Loving Us, we sit down with DMV-based couple Drs. Tony and Shewa Awoojodu, who’ve been growing in love since their college days. With two beautiful daughters and a foundation of purpose, and fun, they’ve faced challenges that social media could never tell you.

    Known for their beautiful aesthetic, power couple energy, and “good vibes only” motto, this couple has lived through real life—including parenting through what some would call setbacks and walking through seasons of misunderstanding from outsiders. They don’t try to be your relationship goals—they are committed to staying aligned, grounded, and completely in their own lane.

    In this episode, we explore: how they've navigating love for nearly 20 years together, parenting through uncertainty with grace, shattering public perceptions to protect their peace, and creating a marriage that’s fun and real to them. You’ll laugh, reflect, and walk away reminded that love isn’t a performance—it’s partnership.
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    1 hr and 4 mins